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  No updates after upgrade?
Posted by: jojuma - 08-26-2021, 10:59 AM - Forum: Mobian on PinePhone - Replies (3)

Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
64-bit
GNOME 3.38.5
Wayland

After trying out some things which were hardly reversible I reinstalled mobian about a week ago with an image from images.mobian-project.org. Since installing, I did not get a single update although the image seems to be from may 2021.

I tried it using the software app, that always throws an error: Failed to update metadata for lvfs. After running

Code:
fwupdmgr --force refresh

in the terminal, the error isn't thrown any more and the software app tells me that everything is up to date.


I tried in the terminal running

Code:
apt update

which also tells me that everything is up to date.

Code:
apt-upgrade

gives me 0 updated, 0 new installed, 0 to remove and 0 not updated.

Why I doubt that is is correct is because before the reinstallation it felt like receiving updates  regularly.

Does anybody have a clue if I might be right? Thank you!


  Is the brave heart fully functional?
Posted by: henrysamson2410 - 08-26-2021, 03:28 AM - Forum: General - Replies (1)

Hi everybody!
Can I ask you something
Is the brave heart fully functional?
Does the pine64 installer utility provide the operating system for the brave heart version including Android vanilla images?
Thanks !


Question Any hardware update planned?
Posted by: Goffi - 08-26-2021, 12:42 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PineCube - No Replies

Hello,

I'm willing to get a pinecube for a while, but the development progress seems stalled. I know that it's a side project for Pine64 and that there is the component shortage, so I don't expect to see move anytime soon. However, it seems that it's already really usable right now so I'm thinking about getting the dev kit.

It won't be a problem for me to install OS or do some settings with it, and I can live without a case. My may concern is if there is any hardware update planned? In other words, is the current version of pinecube working correctly and stable enough to be used? No major flaw?

Thanks


  Lo-fi adaptor
Posted by: cosmicschock - 08-25-2021, 02:06 PM - Forum: General - Replies (6)

Hello pinephone community minus exclusions

It would a cool potential to explore use of pinephone on lo-fi networks like Helium, this thread is for that discussion. Seeing a lo-fi adaptor on a future update of the pinephone or finding some hack for use of lo-fi on the pinephone as it exists is a desired outcome of this thread for me.


  e-paper pinephone? smaller screen pinenote?
Posted by: ideograph - 08-25-2021, 12:44 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PineNote - Replies (6)

I currently use a rooted hisense a5, which is an epaper phone about the same size as the pinephone. it is probably the best size for reading epubs, is very convenient to carry, and a large screen is not necessary for basic note taking and reading consumption tasks. However, using a touch screen keyboard is a pain.

I am extremely excited for the pine phone keyboard, as I think it is going to make a useful note taking device, but an epaper screen would be the ideal pair in my opinion.

Is there any chance, thought, or interest in a much smaller epaper device than the new pinenote? I find the large screens, especially 10 inches, to be overkill in most situations, and the only feature missing from my epaper phone is a hardware keyboard.

excited for there finally to be an open epaper device!


Brick Reverse (Backside of Tablet) Split Keyboard
Posted by: ideograph - 08-25-2021, 12:37 PM - Forum: PineNote Accessories - Replies (2)

This idea has been cooking for a long time, and finally there is a perfect device to warrant further development. The basic idea is a slim split keyboard that attaches to the back of the tablet. The two halves are mirrored, with the top rows facing toward the middle of the tablet when you are holding it long-wise.

It has not been done, but is trivial on an open source low-profile mechanical keyboard with thumb keys to wire keys on both sides of the PCB. So for this design, most of the keys would be on one side of the PCB, as in most keyboards, while a few of the thumb keys would be on the flip side, peeking up from the sides of the tablet when in use. I saw someone wire a PCB this way and even describe how it could be used in a tablet keyboard with velcro almost exactly as I am describing, but I wasn't able to find the post again just now, I will do more research and find it.

Essentially: imagine holding the tablet long wise, with hands on both short ends (landscape), your palms would push on the sides of the tablet to hold it in place, likely as you regularly hold a tablet, but on the back of the tablet device would be a complete keyboard (or at least all the letters and numbers and punctuation, say 42 keys) underneat where your fingers naturally lay for each hand, half under your four left fingers, half under your other right. Facing you, alongside the screen of the tablet, would be at least two thumb buttons, as your thumbs naturally remain on the front side of hte tablet when in use. These would be enter,space,shift, etc and other layer keys.

People have pursued chording keyboards to a similar end, but I think the size of a tablet allows for a relatively complete, small, low profile mechanical keyboard to fit on the back and allow extremely fast touch typing on a tablet, and the pine note is perfect for this. This would allow you to very easily use the device as an extremely powerful word processor in your lap, and possibly even as you are walking, and would be a vast improvement over touch screen typing, or even thumb typing on a physical keyboard.


https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/...ze=400,206

There have been at least three insights into this design that other people have had, though I think generally have been over-engineered. For example the blink keyboard is based on the same premise https://hackaday.io/project/174087-blink-keyboard

https://hackaday.io/project/158377-mecha...nd-tablets

https://hackaday.io/project/158377/logs

I will try to find the other examples and post more soon. Let me know what you think. I think this is already 80% availiable to produce just using existing open source split ergo low profile keyboard pcb designs.


Lightbulb Kobol64 shutting down
Posted by: poVoq - 08-25-2021, 06:33 AM - Forum: General - Replies (1)

https://blog.kobol.io/2021/08/25/we-are-...-the-plug/?

Sad to see as their main product looked like a really interesting Rockchip based NAS solution.

Maybe Pine64 could approach them and acquire their IP to make a Pine64 version? The technology seems quite close to the RockPro64.


  install the moden
Posted by: Uturn - 08-25-2021, 04:32 AM - Forum: Sxmo on PinePhone - Replies (1)

for soem reason, the modem does not appear anymore in my PostmarketOS SXMO install. The script reset modem seems to work, but if I ask for modem info, sxmo displays couldn't find moden - is your moden enabled? Now I wonder how to fix that? Modem toggle I tried too, changes nothing. (my pinephone has no phone card installed)


  Number of PinePhone units sold/ordered so far
Posted by: Dhanvanthri - 08-25-2021, 02:22 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (1)

Hey guys,
    I'm just trying to get a rough estimate of the number of devices (PinePhones) sold for some personal research, could someone please tell how many batches have been sold so far, and the approximate count of devices per batch? I would greatly appreciate it.

    W.R.T. the same, I would love to talk to someone on the Pine team about the economics of selling a niche devices that requires coordinating global supply and logistics like this. I understand that the pinephone wasn't primarily intended to generate a profit, but rather, get the device into the hands of as many people as possible. However I'm still interested.

Thanks Big Grin


  How to use Pinephone as wifi antenna for Pinebook Pro
Posted by: stozi - 08-25-2021, 12:01 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (3)

It has been suggested to me that it is possible to use my Pinephone as a wifi antenna for my Pinebook Pro, but it doesn't work. I have default manjaro on the PBP and PmOS Phosh on the PP. In network manager on the PBP I see 'Wired Connection 1: Connected 0 B/s 0 B/s', the zeroes never change. Please help thanks!