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  On counterfeit SD cards
Posted by: tkaiser - 04-18-2016, 02:56 AM - Forum: General - Replies (24)

Fake/counterfeit SD cards are a real concern for anyone trying to buy a reliable SD/TF card. You get them from every retailer since they sometimes don't even know that they sell fake cards. And trying to make 'good deals' almost always ends up with a fake SD card.

Compare with this nice article here:

Quote:I recently got about 20 64GB Micro SD cards for some project at various online sources (eBay, Ali, etc). 17 of those cards are fake.

17 out of 20. Hey, that's only 85 percent! Wink

Fake/counterfeit SD cards have less real capacity than the controller signals (most of the times they are also way slower than they should be). So if you insert this card into your PC it shows 16 GB capacity while it might be just 8 GB in reality. This card will work more or less fine until you exceed the 8 GB limit.

What does this mean for burning Linux and Android/RemixOS images.

You will be able to burn any Linux OS image that doesn't exceed this size without any errors. You can also later resize the rootfs to the faked capacity still without getting any error. But you will get in trouble for sure if you start to write data on the card the moment you exceed the card's real capacity since data that will be written beyond the card's real capacity is lost. Filesystem errors will occur, the FS will be turned read-only, applications and the system might crash/freeze. But this will happen later when you try to use the Pine64.

With Android/RemixOS it's different. Android images are meant to be burned using Phoenix Card. This tool tries to detect the card's capacity, then formats and partitions the card in a way that the whole capacity will be used. The size of all partitions is fixed except of the data partition. This will be resized to the max. Since the data partition is somewhere in between the other partitions Phoenix Card will move some partitions beyond the card's real capacity if you got a counterfeit card. In this case Phoenix Card will already fail burning the system partition so you will end up with the last message "[boot]Burn success" followed by a single line containing "Error" (when the Error is thrown Phoenix Card has tried to write the system partition and then tried to verify a successful burn by verifying checksums... and fails here):

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So if you run into this situation think about testing your card now. Most probably you use a fake card and in case you used it before simply didn't take notice due to the different useage/partitioning. A fake card could be used with a Linux image on a Raspberry Pi since years without a single error but will fail already when trying to burn an Android image with Phoenix card due to the totally different partition scheme used by Android.

This is all well known since years and the Pine64 folks should create a quickstart guide that recommends testing every card prior to useage. It's easy and will save you time and hassles.


  Useful threads
Posted by: Ghost - 04-17-2016, 09:04 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PINE A64(+) - No Replies

Please use this thread to post links to any other threads you think could be useful to other users. The idea is to create a kind of meta-thread that people looking for answers can be referred to. For example:

How to get started?

The 6 most common reasons why Pine64 won't boot

How to handle a Pine64 correctly

What happens if you under-power voltage?

DOA - How to be certain?

On counterfeit SD cards

Can't get android to boot past initial startup screen (RESOLVED)

Can't get past boot screen (RESOLVED)

Unable to format sdcard

Step By Step How To Install Ubuntu Image

Power supply questions

Power Pine64 via GPIO

Recommended micro sd card?

Switch found in the box

Using external hard drives with Pine

Pine64 benchmarks

Heat sink required for Pine64?

Script Not Found error using PhoenixCard

TV Screen Edge woes: 2 Fixes 

DOA Board? "UNSUPPORTED VIDEO"

Pine64 Board Appeared Dead [SOLVED]

Color is messed up (SOLVED)

SD card too small Error

Pine64 2Gb not booting (SOLVED)


  Delivery Question
Posted by: jpecora93 - 04-17-2016, 08:29 PM - Forum: Shipment Related Discussion - Replies (7)

I was reading the posts and noticed one person mention that they had to sign for their package. Is it being sent as signature required in person or can you sign and leave it for the USPS for the next day?

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  Oculus Rift
Posted by: Elcp - 04-17-2016, 08:03 PM - Forum: Pine A64 Projects, Ideas and Tutorials - Replies (4)

Hey there still waiting on my board, but wondering what project to start with, I wondered if anyone has thought about using it as an Oculus rift, or any other VR setup.

Ewan


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  How to get started?
Posted by: riahim - 04-17-2016, 06:30 PM - Forum: Getting Started - Replies (35)

Hello,
I apologize if this has been asked, but is there a tutorial or a quick-start guide? I"m not really sure where to start.
I'm familiar with using other microprocessor based FPGA boards which require downloading a program (i.e libero) and using verilog/C. However, as far as I can tell this is not needed for the pine64...? Basically, if anyone could help me get started, that'd be great.
Thanks


  Open media vault on pine64?
Posted by: Luke - 04-17-2016, 06:17 PM - Forum: Linux on Pine A64(+) - Replies (9)

Hey everyone,

Having toyed around with the pine64 for a couple of weeks, I feel that now I zeroed in on a real day-to-day purpose for it. I want it to act as a NAS/ sync server. While I know that I could just get BitTorrent sync + samba installed on it and live happily ever after, I am wondering if it would be possible to build omv for the pine64. From what I remember omv uses Debian (right?) and not Ubuntu - hence my question, would it be possible to install omv on top of ubuntu?
 Cheers, 

Luke


  Unable to format sdcard
Posted by: Nova136 - 04-17-2016, 02:05 PM - Forum: Android on Pine A64(+) - Replies (9)

Tried to burn the android image onto my sdcard but fails every time.
Phoenixcard is running as administrator.
Reformatted sdcard a few times still no luck.
The partition of the sdcard after phoenixcard reformatted it seems very weird.
Attached the images of error for reference.
Any help or advise would be appreciated.



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  Video on how to upload Remix OS to Pine 64
Posted by: Milkman - 04-17-2016, 01:49 PM - Forum: Remix OS - Replies (4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBSGaGteAc


  Thread Modes Install Moonlight on Pine
Posted by: Jobs - 04-17-2016, 01:29 PM - Forum: Linux on Pine A64(+) - Replies (1)

Hi,
I just received my Pine A64 (1GB model) [Image: smile.png] and I wanted to try out Moonlight-embedded for streaming games (https://github.com/irtimmer/moonlight-embedded).
First I installed Arch Linux and then I followed the official instructions (https://github.com/irtimmer/moonlight-em...i/Packages)  for installing Moonlight.
Unfortunately I got the following error:

        package moonlight-embedded-2.1.4-1-armv7h does not have a valid architecture

I guess the issue here is that the pine uses the arm v8 architecture. 

Did someone already try to compile/install moonlight for the pine?


  Forum Revamp
Posted by: Ghost - 04-17-2016, 12:27 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PINE A64(+) - Replies (20)

The forum has become somewhat messy and disorganised. I would like to restructure it slightly, rename some forums, add others, etc. Given below is my proposal for a new forum layout. Any input or suggestions much appreciated. 

A PLACE TO START - this forum includes a guide posted as a sticky explaining how to get the Pine64 up and running, noob questions and answers, and basic general discussion.

PROBLEMS, ISSUES, BUGS & SOLUTIONS - this forum is for discussion of various issues people have with the Pine64 and how to go about solving them. Could be further divided into more specific sub-forums, such as OS bug reports, display issues, power supply issues, etc.

USER PROJECTS - this forum is for people to propose and carry out their Pine64 related projects, so other people can follow along and add their help and advice along the way, if needed. A good example of this is Zoidano's car head unit: http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=303

SUGGESTIONS - suggestions for improving the Pine64 in future iterations (adding USB 3.0, more RAM, different SoC, SATA, etc), improving the forum. Basically any constructive, helpful suggestions that can help to improve the Pine64 community.

SOFTWARE - this forum can largely remain as it is at the moment, there are many fantastic contributors already in this forum doing a great job.

HARDWARE - discussion of all things hardware-related, i.e. AllWinner SoC, GPIO, USB interface, Ethernet, etc.

PERIPHERALS - talk about keyboards, remotes, pointers, WiFi dongles, all plug-in peripheral-related things.

GENERAL CHAT - a place to talk about non-Pine64 things - movies, games, travel, work, etc.


The current official Pine64 NEWS forum does not have much activity. It could either be revamped (maybe as PINE64 OFFICIAL or something), or merged into the other forums.

Please all comment and let me know your thoughts on this. The better we can make this forum and the access to relevant information for people searching for solutions, the more useful it will be.