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Question What "Extras" (aka Essentials) To Order
Posted by: MashaT22 - 06-01-2016, 12:59 AM - Forum: Getting Started - Replies (1)

Hi all! Smile

I'm a noob to dev boards. Never touched one. Never even seen one up close (unless you count through my computer screen). No RasPi's, no nothing. Pine64 is literally going to be my first (cue the "aww" in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . awwwwww!) I am very curious about tech and learning, so when I saw Pine64's campaign, features, and price point, I decided it was time for me to dive in and see what dev boards are all about. Whether I'll end up using Pine64 for making, gaming, programming, a spare computer and/or a host of other possibilities remains to be seen.

Success often depends on starting off on the right foot. I'm a very, VERY patient person by nature, and I know I'll screw up as I'm experimenting with my Pine, but I'd like things to go well from the moment I get started.

That said, while I'm waiting on my Playbox Rewards to arrive (with the upgraded 2gb Pine64), it occurred to me that I probably won't have everything I need to get started out of the box. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I figure it's best to ask people who know what they're doing. When I open the box, will I have all the necessary cords for and doodads for things like the included LCD touchscreen, wifi/BT card, etc.? I know a power supply is included, but there's no mention of other cords.

I'm also interested in add-ons and their accompanying cords and doodads. I'm not sure if I'm getting in over my head from the start (please speak up if you think I am!). but I've been checking out:

Power

  • I've been looking at the 8000mAh battery. I assume that would be good for when I don't want to be tethered to a cord, like when using the Playbox setup or making some projects, right? (You can be honest if you don't think this or anything else I'm mentioning is needed . . . again, I'm a noob who is just figuring, lol.)
  • One of the RTC battery backups, but I don't know if the AAA battery or coin cell is better.
Accessories

I think I'm mostly good here. I have headphones, etc. However . . .
  • If I already own a Bluetooth keyboard with mouse touch pad (no dongle) that I use with a Dell tablet, can I use that? Let me know if you need to know the brand of the keyboard/mouse I own. Or must I go with a dongle setup for keyboard and mouse for using with Pine?
Adapters and Cables

I have no clue if I need any of the adapters/cords listed, whether for the basic items I'm getting or the modules I'm thinking about (see below).
  • I may already have spare HDMI cables around the house, so I would think those would be fine if I need one.
Modules

The modules scare me a bit! I have no clue what some of them do and whether I'd need them . . . and if I get them, then what do I need from the above categories to plug 'em in and make them work? I'm sort of interested in getting:
  • Adding the 5 mp camera seems like a useful thing. I think it just plugs into the main board, right?
  • Push Button is like an off/off switch (unless there are other uses I'm unaware of). That seems like a handy no-brainer.
  • Zwave seems neat for home automation, but is that too complicated for a newbie to try?
  • What are POT boards and what's the difference between the two types listed?
  • What's a USB serial programmer?
  • What's the Wifi remote module used for?
Here's another thing I should mention: I'm getting a bunch of stuff from the LattePanda campaign on Kickstarter where I pledged for the Hardware Dev Kit. (I know Pine has Windows in their Pipeline, but I decided that in the unlikely event that I find Pine a bit out of my league to start, then I'll have a more familiar Windows-based dev board.) I don't know any of LP's items (ie: sensors, etc.) will be compatible with Pine64 or are redundant with any of Pine's add-ons. If any experts here know how to determine this, it might help me a great deal. I've included a link to the campaign page above in case you need more specs info, but the reward I'm getting is the $209 Dev Kit (which includes the items in the $149 Enhanced Kit) and essentially comes with:

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Well, thanks SO much if you read to this point! I am really interested in learning to use my Pine for all sorts of things. I don't want to open the box when it arrives and feel like wtf did I get myself into?! Huh Cry Hopefully, all will go well once I'm setup and learn the basics. I appreciate any input on what I need or may be useful to get started! This way I can already put in an order for those items rather than waiting for my Pine to arrive.

Thanks a million!  Smile


  Dissatisfaction
Posted by: UnixOutlaw - 05-31-2016, 11:59 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PINE A64(+) - Replies (20)

Generally dissatisfied with EVERYTHING about Pine64.  Hardware (bowed "warp" on both 2GB Pine64 boards), software and this forum.

Nothing works...   

No Bluetooth working in Linux or Android (i.e. with the "stock" Pine supplied Wifi/BT module-cum-hat).

Only ONE single build of any Operating System for the "stock" LCD Touchpanel (and no root) that Pine sells - and that is Android (which I really have no use for).

Has anyone here read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"...   This forum doesn't fit either model, in fact I'd use the example "The Cathedral, the Bazaar and the Refugee Camp Run-by-some-inept-organization"...

The "documentation" is a hideous tangled chaotic nightmare...

C'mon people - I had no idea that kickstarter pledge rewards were for Alpha testing of pre-beta hardware and Alpha software!

I might just start swearing again till I'm banned - I get no help in here anyway...


  Owncloud Experience Anyone?
Posted by: JCMPine64 - 05-31-2016, 04:45 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PINE A64(+) - Replies (17)

I've been trying to get ownCloud running on my 2Gb Pine64 but it's pretty buggy.  Anyone have any luck getting a solid instance of ownCloud running?

Everything seems to install correctly and the server seems stable, but the Windows desktop client crashes on a regular basis when I'm trying to sync 140Gb of music files.  Sometimes it just hangs and sometimes it aborts in an ugly fashion.  It seems like the desktop client works for others, I can only assume that there's something wrong with my server setup, so I'm hoping someone here has been able to do it successfully and can show the way.


  LCD Enclosure on a budget!
Posted by: ajsullivan - 05-31-2016, 01:47 PM - Forum: Enclosures - Replies (2)

I love my pine, but I was getting fed up of having the LCD panel dangling from the acrylic enclosure. I will be purchasing the playbook case as soon as it is available but until then I decided to MacGyver one using the existing pine64 carboard box.

I used the bottom of the acrylic enclosure to give it a little bit of stability but you can do this without it. I screwed small screws into the cardboard to keep it sliding around (which is where I added the acrylic base). I cut out holes for all the ports, and then made small indentations for the LCD screen to sit in. I have used elastic bands to fix the screen.

I hope you like it, and it makes you smile, I am quite please with it! Check out the pics.

Alex

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  Accessory: IR Remote
Posted by: tcmsurfer - 05-31-2016, 11:36 AM - Forum: Accessories - Replies (9)

Hi everybody,

after a long waiting time, I finally got my Pine64 in the mail. Sadly I don't have everything to test it. I also ordered a remote due to my wish to use this as a media center. According to this recent thread a 3 pin add-on is to be delivered with the remote, however I don't see one in my package.  Huh

(02-22-2016, 10:51 PM)tllim Wrote: The 3pin IR receiver device will include together with IR remote control.

... TL Lim

Anybody who also ordered the accessory and got the IR receiver? Am I the only one?

Best Regards,
Andreas


  Receipt printer?
Posted by: ColorblindMonk - 05-31-2016, 10:47 AM - Forum: Accessories - No Replies

Hey guys, my boss is trying to get a project going, can't say what it is currently, but we would need a cheap computer to get things started. Of course, the Pi came up in the discussion, but he's interested in using the Pine if it will wind up suiting our needs better. What we need along with it is a touch screen panel and a thermal receipt printer. The LCD panel seems to be covered by the shop, but does anybody know if there's any reliable receipt printer that will work with the Pine?


  Is there a temperature sensor on Pine?
Posted by: Informatica - 05-31-2016, 10:13 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PINE A64(+) - Replies (12)

Hi, 
I installed CPU-Z (android) for monitoring processor and memory and I noticed that in the "Thermal" tab, the application show a specific value of temperature (about 50°C). It grows up (about 54°C) after video playing.

So, is there a temperature sensor on Pine or it is a fake temperature?


  Pushing notifications from home network to cell phone
Posted by: wahdooyah - 05-30-2016, 08:25 PM - Forum: Pine A64 Projects, Ideas and Tutorials - No Replies

This may be one of those uses that most people wouldn't find too useful, but I thought I'd share the setup since it helped me to solve a problem that had stumped me for awhile.

There are various reasons one might want to push notifications from your home network to your mobile device (notifying of changes in your dynamic IP address, alerts from smart home sensors/smoke alarms/security alarms, etc.), and while there are some easy ways to do this using third-party services, I dislike solutions that rely on third parties too much.

So for this example, I check whether my ISP has changed my home IP address, and if it has, I push a notification to my cell phone in the form of a text file with the new IP address. For the Pine, I'm using the latest Debian image from here, with Tor installed:

Code:
sudo apt-get install tor

Then, on my Android phone I have installed SSHelper, which I obtained via the f-droid repositories, but you can also install from the Play Store I believe. I also have installed Orbot, which I recommend getting from the official Guardian Project repository rather than the Play Store, though I believe it is also there.

To set up SSHelper to run as a hidden service, you will need to open the settings dialog in Orbot, and scroll down to the Hidden Service Hosting section, and check the box for Hidden Service Hosting. Click on Hidden Service Ports and pick whatever port you have selected in SSHelper (for this example I'm using the default, 2222). Next, you need to shut down Orbot and restart it so that it will generate your .onion address. Go into the hidden service settings again, click on the .onion hostname, and copy that address. You might want to write it down or save it as a text file since you'll need it later.

Next, on the Pine, attempt to access the Android phone using the .onion hostname:

Code:
torsocks ssh -p 2222 123456abcde.onion

Once you've confirmed this works, you need to set up the SSH server to use  a keypair instead of password, so on the Pine type these two commands:

Code:
ssh-keygen -t dsa -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa -N ''
torsocks ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub -p 2222 12345abcdef.onion

Type in the password when it prompts you, then exit once the devices finish the key exchange. Now, on the Android phone, enter the SSHelper settings and check the box Disable password logins.

Next, I wrote a perl script that checks with a public site and creates a text file containing the IP, as well as a log of prior IPs and when they changed:

Code:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

my $nip;
my $now = localtime();
my $ipcheck = "http://ipecho.net/plain";
my $result = qx{curl --silent $ipcheck};

if($result =~  m/(\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3})/) {
 $nip = $1;
}
else { die "regex failed to match an IP: $!"; }

open(LAST, "<lastip") or die "Can't open lastip";
my $lastip = <LAST>;
close(LAST);

unless($lastip eq $nip) {
open(LAST, ">lastip") or die "Can't open lastip";
print LAST $nip;
close(LAST);

print qx{torsocks scp -P 2222 /home/pineuser/lastip 12345abcdef.onion:/sdcard/ipchecker/};
open(LOG, ">>history") or die "Can't open history";
print LOG "$nip\t[$now]\n";
close(LOG);

print qx{torsocks scp -P 2222 /home/pineuser/history 12345abcdef.onion:/sdcard/ipchecker/};
}
else {
open(CHECKED, ">checked") or die "Can't open checked";
print CHECKED $now;
close(CHECKED);
print qx{torsocks scp -P 2222 /home/pineuser/checked 12345abcdef.onion:/sdcard/ipchecker/};
}

Now, all that's left is to create the three files and set the script to run periodically via crontab:

Code:
touch lastip history checked
crontab -e

I set the cronjob to run hourly at five past the hour (because why not?), but obviously anything would work:

Code:
5 * * * * /home/pineuser/notifier.pl

Assuming everything went smoothly, you should have three files created in your SSH root directory: checked lets you know how recently it was checked, lastip should be the most recent IP address, and history should list each prior IP address.

As I indicated at the beginning, this particular script is just an example of one use, but once you have the SSH hidden service running, you can push any notifications or files you might want to that folder.


  Received package but missing accessory
Posted by: mhrsz17 - 05-30-2016, 07:53 PM - Forum: Shipment Related Discussion - Replies (8)

Any idea on how should I file a report for missing item? I pledged for Pine64+ 2gb and accessories but the 2nd USB cable was not in the parcel.

p.s. How can we identify the difference between 64 and 64+ board just by looking at the board? 
The details on parcel only stated '1 x PA642GB'

I'm still waiting for my sd card to arrive, so as for now I cant really do anything to check. 

thanks in advance Big Grin



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  Wifi/ Bluetooth chip
Posted by: abba2566 - 05-30-2016, 11:20 AM - Forum: Getting Started - Replies (4)

Possibly a stupid question but, I've slotted the wifi/ Bluetooth chip onto the pins labelled wifi+bt on the board, but there's a grey cable that doesn't seem to attach anywhere, should it?