Manjaro ARM 19.12 Official Release - PineBook Pro

[Der Geist der Maschine]

Kernel Updates

I installed a small program and that triggered pacman to update the whole system including the kernel. During this process, I realized kernel updates could be handled better:

Kernel updates delete the old modules and so the newly installed modules don't match the running kernel. The running kernel can't now load any further modules. I believe modules should never be deleted by the system (or at least in a much smarter way).

This becomes quite annoying. How do you guys work around this issue?

I can't even insmod a new module with the right path to it in the old, running, kernel as it refuses to load modules from another kernel version.

[Idaho]

Has the sound output bug been fixed by an update yet or will it be fixed in a future release?

[llsf]

Kernel Updates

I installed a small program and that triggered pacman to update the whole system including the kernel. During this process, I realized kernel updates could be handled better:

Kernel updates delete the old modules and so the newly installed modules don't match the running kernel. The running kernel can't now load any further modules. I believe modules should never be deleted by the system (or at least in a much smarter way).

This becomes quite annoying. How do you guys work around this issue?

I can't even insmod a new module with the right path to it  in the old, running, kernel as it refuses to load modules from another kernel version.

Well… a new kernel means you gotta reboot to remain up to date – probably a good way to nudge you in the right direction with regards to having things as recent as possible no matter what ;)

More seriously, though: You can either downgrade the kernel again until you've loaded the modules you need (if this doesn't happen too often), or see if one of the pre-made solutions work for you, like: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kernel-modules-hook (haven't tested that one, no guarantees for anything).

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On servers, I like only allowing pre-signed modules in my precious kernels anyway – this would probably make this all more hellish. I should fiddle around with that on a desktop Arch someday, just for shits and giggles :D

/edit

Btw, this might be as good a place as any (as in: it's the Manjaro-Thread): I've finally managed to collect some odds and ends and PKGBUILDS I've made / modified for my own use on the PBP with Manjaro/Arch at https://github.com/lsfxz/pinebookpro-things. They might be of use to someone else but me, so I thought I'd share them.

[spikerguy]

Has the sound output bug been fixed by an update yet or will it be fixed in a future release?

Kernel Updates

I installed a small program and that triggered pacman to update the whole system including the kernel. During this process, I realized kernel updates could be handled better:

Kernel updates delete the old modules and so the newly installed modules don't match the running kernel. The running kernel can't now load any further modules. I believe modules should never be deleted by the system (or at least in a much smarter way).

This becomes quite annoying. How do you guys work around this issue?

I can't even insmod a new module with the right path to it  in the old, running, kernel as it refuses to load modules from another kernel version.

Well… a new kernel means you gotta reboot to remain up to date – probably a good way to nudge you in the right direction with regards to having things as recent as possible no matter what

More seriously, though: You can either downgrade the kernel again until you've loaded the modules you need (if this doesn't happen too often), or see if one of the pre-made solutions work for you, like: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kernel-modules-hook (haven't tested that one, no guarantees for anything).

--

On servers, I like only allowing pre-signed modules in my precious kernels anyway – this would probably make this all more hellish. I should fiddle around with that on a desktop Arch someday, just for shits and giggles

/edit

Btw, this might be as good a place as any (as in: it's the Manjaro-Thread): I've finally managed to collect some odds and ends and PKGBUILDS I've made / modified for my own use on the PBP with Manjaro/Arch at https://github.com/lsfxz/pinebookpro-things. They might be of use to someone else but me, so I thought I'd share them.

With the new kernel users can mute the speaker using alsamixer or by passing the following commands.
Mute speaker so you can listen to audio on headphone.

Code:

sudo amixer sset 'Speaker' mute

Unmute speaker so you can listen to audio on speakers.

Code:

sudo amixer sset 'Speaker' unmute

This will only work with the latest kernel.

[Idaho]

Hmm good to know, hopefully the bug will be ironed out totally for convenience but this is good progress, I'll switch to Manjaro asap, this is now usable for me...

[Ardi]

for those using the KDE version, updates to the Qt libraries should be avoided.
See this topic on the Manjaro forum: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/new-qt5-es2-...shoutherif

this seams to be fixed now, I have just updated the system without know this thread and everything is working fine , I'm using Manjaro Plasma, loving it!

[agD0i7rY]

Yes it's fixed, there was a small problem on the package a few days ago but since then it's perfect.
Plasma is really nice
It makes me want to have a Pinephone under Plasma

[flgram]

Hi,
What version of LibreOffice and Thunderbird is default in Manjaro ARM 19.12? (or how do I find out without installing :-)
I am not completely satisfied with the default Debian OS of my pbp, as LibreOffice is old and thunderbird not working.

Regards

[p3732]

What version of LibreOffice and Thunderbird is default in Manjaro ARM 19.12? (or how do I find out without installing :-)
I am not completely satisfied with the default Debian OS of my pbp, as LibreOffice is old and thunderbird not working.

You can go to a mirror's page, which you can find from the manjaro homepage, and manually dig around in there, for example this mirror: https://manjaro-arm.moson.eu/stable/aarch64/

You can also use archlinuxarm's search and hope that manjaro will have the same version (which usually is the case within a week or so): https://archlinuxarm.org/packages

Overall you can basically assume that the latest release is available for most common software.

[xmixahlx]

Hi,
What version of LibreOffice and Thunderbird is default in Manjaro ARM 19.12? (or how do I find out without installing :-)
I am not completely satisfied with the default Debian OS of my pbp, as LibreOffice is old and thunderbird not working.

Regards

not answering your question, but debian has multiple versions of libreoffice, etc.:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice

the easiest solution is probably enabling stretch-backports in /etc/sources.list