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  List of Pinephone browsers
Posted by: Gamey - 04-21-2021, 12:46 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (17)

I made a post about browsers on the Pinephone a while ago but it's a bit outdated by now and I obviously wasn't able to test everything by myself. I though maybe we can make a list of browsers and document how well they work together. I will make the start and hope some of you also have something to add later on :D



Browsers I was able to get working.


  • Firefox: As the default browser FF works really well except for some UI glitches and the removal of PWAs which really fucked with me since Hydrogen depends on the feature. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmXmq8...Lqd1qa1kJw
  • Chromium: It works somewhat okay but only with x11 (via XWayland) because Ozone which should enable proper Wayland support is very buggy with the keyboard. Without Ozone you can't type a "@" which is annoying but not a deal breaker, with it I can't even type a "o". In short the Pinephone will render it at a lower resolution to decrease the performance impact caused by XWayland. In my experience it's the only browser that can reliably get out of fullscreen tho so while I dislike Chromium it's currently the best solution I have to watch video online. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmST4v...e9R56VKwds
  • Librewolf: Ik it's basically Firefox from a different source and with better defaults but since I got it to work I thought it still deserves at least a mention here. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmbsBX...RqcrJ5WkJk
  • Angelfish: The default plasma mobile browser and the only truly mobile optimized browser I know of. It's a really nice browser with a damn good UI but it still crashes a ton and sometimes has strange bugs. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmQDBx...wC46yo49Nh
  • Dillo: Not my kind of thing (a bit to retro) but still a working browser. It can't scale websites and doesn't load most of them but if you like it you can enjoy it on your Pinephone. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmPqxo...zQpT4Aha6E
  • Castor: It's probably debatable and I don't use Gemini but it's awesome that there already is a mobile compatible browser for it and after a lot of fucking around I got it to work once with one version but never again. Luckily it still runs on my Arch testing setup.
  • Qutebrowser: It may seem strange to you that I include a keyboard driven browser in here but Qutebrowser works damn well. As long as you use the Terminal layout you can use it without any issues and a few little tweaks to the keybindings can improve it even father. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmWicY...fmX4BeXT4F
  • Liri Browser: I won't lie I am not a fan of material design and much less on Linux but the Liri apps work damn well beside of some scaling issue and the browser is fine and works well in my experience. https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmanBj...39kFupV51M
  • Midori: Like all WebkitGTK apps this browser runs like shit on the Pinephone but it runs and if you disable JS you can even somewhat use it. It has UI glitches that prevent any searches tho so if then you can only use it as default for GTK apps.
  • Epiphany: Just don't even try it! I heared some rumors about potential improvmentes in GTK4 but since I haven't seen any source for that I doubt it.
  • Vivaldi: We have so many great open source browsers so I hate to even imagine someone uses a closed source option within the Linux community but I want to get this list somewhat complete. It works but the UI is absolutely awful for mobile devices and it also seems to use XWayland. I want to add that I only started the browser to take a  look at it and deleted it right after that so this is a bit one sided and I am aware of that but common a closed source browser I mean that gets a no thanks from me! https://gateway.pinata.cloud/ipfs/QmXfDA...vMkmYBDf8N
  • Falkon: The KDE browser for desktop devices which doesn't work that well on mobile devices but it works so it's in this list.
  • QtWebBrowser: Seems to be a simple browser directly from the Qt team and made for Touch devices but it seems to be more of a thing for tablets since the UI components are far to big and start to stack on top of each other instead of scaling down.
  • Konqueror: Another KDE browser that seems to also be a swiss army knife for file managment. The main usecase I can see for it is to download websites and view them later which can be really useful at times. It doesn't intentionally scale but the UI is suprisingly mobile friendly by default and you can tweak it quite a bit to fit the screen even better.  I can confirm that it works on Mobian but seems broken on Arch (missing dependency) and it uses KDEWebKit and optionally the long dead KHTML webengine.
  • Tor Browser: The current official Alpha seems to actually support ARM64 but that's not secure so to get a build rn you can go to the Sourceforge page of TorBrowser Ports. (I haven't done that since I absolutly hate Sourceforge so I can't confirm if the browser actually works but there are videos of it running)
  • Cog: A Webkit WPE launcher without any GUI that seems to work quite well beside of some reaqlly annoying buggs. Those include absolutly no UI (not even a right click menu) and broken copy paste even with Strg+C/V. It's not technically a browser but I just had to include it since it makes creating Webapps so damn easy with a single command launched via a .desktop file. There also is a small external UI that adds some basic controls called Cogwebrun
  • W3M: A minimal text based browser (Terminal) that works really well on the Pinephone. In theory w3m-img should also allow it to display images but I wasn't able to get that working nether on Arch nor Mobian.


Extra:




You can delete Cookies in Angelfish using those commands.



rm ~/.local/share/KDE/angelfish/QtWebEngine/DefaultProfile/Cookies


rm ~/.local/share/KDE/angelfish/QtWebEngine/DefaultProfile/Cookies-journal




To run Chromium with Ozone you have to add the following flags. (tested with the Flathub version of Chromium and Ungoogled Chromium)


--enable-features=UseOzoneProject --ozone-platform=wayland



Btw I made a blog post about the topic with info collected here and on Mastodon where I talk with a little more details about the best/most interesting browsers from this list to. I asked on Matrix and was tolled anything topic related is allowed but I admit this is a bit of shameless self promotion so please just tell me if any of you amazing mods wants me to remove it!

https://odysee.com/@gamey:c/pinephone-browsers:e


  Chromium Dino game is slow/glitchy
Posted by: stozi - 04-21-2021, 08:18 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - No Replies

So the worst has happened. The offline Chromium Dino game glitches when it switches from day to night at 700 points, I lose control and die all but 1/50 times. Can I allocate more cache or something? Thanks!


  Selling Phone- KDE edition 2Gb variant (some use) [SOLD]
Posted by: Lidesia - 04-21-2021, 01:55 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (1)

Hello all,
A few months ago I got the KDE edition and now my carrier is dropping support for it and I am having less time to tinker than I would like. So I am selling it. I am based out of NC, USA.

It is the 2Gb variant (so original price was around 150) and I have somehow lost the original cable that came with it, so it includes:

The pinephone
Original box
16 Gb SD card (with Arch installed and default credentials) [eMMC works, but I'm trying to make up for the lost original cable]
non-official USB-C if desired [at no extra cost since it typically comes with one]

I'm asking for USD$100+shipping, but I'm willing to negotiate especially if shipping is outrageous.

Attached are pictures of the phone's exterior, and interior as well as the login page of the distro proving that it works. I can provide more pictures/video upon request.

Note: There is a slight marking on the provided screen protector which is kind of hard to see in the image. It's superficial and doesn't affect functionality and you can remove the plastic coat if you wish.

I'd prefer to deal with someone in the US, but I am open to international people as well, just send me PM.



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  Article: Run Rust RISC-V Firmware with BL602 IoT SDK
Posted by: lupyuen - 04-20-2021, 10:26 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)

Here's how we build, flash and run Rust firmware on PineCone BL602... With the BL602 IoT SDK

Run Rust RISC-V Firmware with BL602 IoT SDK


  copy/past/ firefox/mobian
Posted by: rvh - 04-20-2021, 08:35 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (2)

It drove me crazy not being able to past code into terminal from firefox. Somehow I figured it out. I'm sure there is a more elegant way of doing it but this works.
What ever you want to copy, highlight it. 
bring up keyboard and type  copy  and hit return. 
go to the globe at bottom left of keyboard 
select terminal.
tap on < icon bottom right.
tap on menu
you will see a tab open up 
tap on copy.
ignore page it pops up.
go to terminal
long press on curser
tab will pop up 
tap on past.
As with many thing with pinephone, its a little glitchy, sometimes you will have to do this twice and yes it kind of a pain but its a lot better than entering stuff manually. Also this gives you a way of storing data on phone. Instead of ignoring the download page, you can past to there.
I hope this helps.


  thaughts on pinephone
Posted by: rvh - 04-20-2021, 08:06 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (7)

first let me say, I'm abscessed with this phone. I just love the idea of a private phone. as far as os's, i have tried ut, plasma, manjaro, arch, pm and mobian. All recently. The best by far is mobian. As this is supposed to be a phone, it would be nice to be able to use it as a phone. As in being able to make and receive calls. With mobian its about 95% there, the others, in my experience, calls are not there. Arch impressed me with how fast it was but no calls (yet). 
  Its been fun watching mobian improve. its stable and getting faster. It has been my daily driver since 2/2021. for me there are only three gripes. 1. received call have a lot of static 2. no netflix. 3. not able to sent attachments with texts.  
 I'm an average user so I'm not tech savvy enough to get a vpn or axolotl working so i guess I'll have to impatiently wait for an app. So thanks all you folks at mobian, nice job!


  GPS Antenna - external connector?
Posted by: GregH - 04-20-2021, 06:01 PM - Forum: PinePhone Hardware - Replies (14)

The GPS reception on my PinePhone has been poor (no satellites!), and I'd like to improve it with an external antenna.

Can anyone clarify which u.fl connector is the GNSS antenna (and whether it should be "active")? There seems to be at least three on the mainboard.

I am hoping the coax going to the USB-C board ANT104 could be it, but the schematics "helpfully" inticate only that it's an RF antenna, not which one. Wi-Fi? BT? LTE/CDMA? Or GNSS?

Much appreciated if someone can clarify.


  "wifi adapter not found" in Settings after updating
Posted by: quantumphone - 04-20-2021, 05:08 PM - Forum: Arch Linux on PinePhone - Replies (2)

can you help


Question Is there an audio input?
Posted by: ogogon - 04-20-2021, 02:03 PM - Forum: General Discussion on ROCK64 - Replies (1)

Greetings!

Does the board have audio or microphone input?


Ogogon.


  Modem Open Stack - ingoing calls nak/outgoing calls ok
Posted by: fpb4 - 04-20-2021, 12:20 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (1)

Hello Piners - As many of you (i am only assuming), I've followed with great interest the latest magic from both Biktor & [i]Konrad - [/i]highlighted in both the April 
update for their awesome work, but also more recently following 0.2.1 release[i], which I flashed (pretty straightforward) [/i]on a PmOS CE/Mobian unstable/5.10x.

All went well - modem rebooted, power management is a pass, so as outgoing calls - incoming, however, fail.
Back to stock (sigh...) with both incoming/outgoing calls ok.

I haven't seen any open issue on GitHub - and hopefully I ain't double-posting either over here, but...am I the only one with such experience?

Many thanks for any idea you may have.

Cheerio!