So the Pinephone Pro arrived and am really rather pleased with it. Manjaro with Plasma Mobile is nice to use, looks good and the phone responds well. Haven't had a lot of time to play around with it just yet but thought it might be worth mentioning a couple of things if you are expecting your order to arrive soon:

tldr: -With a 2A USB charger the battery charging indicator will show but the battery will not charge and the phone will slowly drain.
      -Updating the base installation of Manjaro with Plasma Mobile may not be entirely straightforward if you assume that a quick 'sudo pacman -Syu' will do the trick.

UPDATE: The 2A charger problem seems to be specific to the Pinephone Pro with the initial pre-loaded Manjaro Plasma OS on the eMMc.
- I'd been trying out Mobian from the SD Card (with the most recent updates applied) and thought I'd just check that the charger still did the same thing as before.
- It now charges fine with that same underpowered charger, so it looks like it's a software issue.

UPDATE2: Now that I've managed to update the Manjaro Plasma pre-installed image on the eMMc, the 2A Charger charges the Pinephone Pro - so it looks like the Pinephone Pro is not quite as picky about chargers once properly updated
- if you're Manjaro Plasma pre-installed image is not updating properly (using 'sudo pacman -Syu' in the terminal) and your phone is not charging, then troubleshoot the updating issue first before your battery runs out!


Chargers
I have quite a few old USB phone/tablet chargers that I use regularly and just assumed that they would work fine, maybe they'd just charge slowly, but unfortunately they are not up to the task - they'll happily charge a Nexus 5 phone and Nexus 7 tablet but I kindof forgot that technology has moved on since 2013

I'm pretty sure that the Nexus 7 charger is 5V and 2A but even with the screen off the battery slowly dwindled and had me worried that there was something wrong with the hardware.

Of course it states in the 'Pinephone Pro User Manual - Quick Start Guide' that "The Pinephone Pro should be charged using a 15W (5V 3A) USB-PD power adapter. Charging at a higher voltage may result in damage to the device." but I didn't pay too much attention to that, just happy knowing that I wasn't going to be damaging my device with my low powered charger, but they don't mean 'for best results use a 5V 3A charger' they mean 'use a 5V 3A charger'

Fortunately I have a half-decent laptop with a USB-C port, so I bought a USB-C to USB-C cable at the supermarket down the road and have been able to charge it with that until I order a decent modern charger to use with it.


Updating Manjaro
There were about 312 updates when I first switched on the phone and connected to Wifi. The 'Discover' application told me about the updates and so instead of using the Command Line equivalent of 'sudo apt update' for Manjaro I gave Discover's Update function a try but it threw up some errors.

Unfortunately, running 'sudo pacman -Syu' from the terminal threw up some errors as well (something to do with PGP Signatures and 'unknown trust'). I tried a bit of 'sudo pacman -Syyu' and also 'sudo pacman -Syyuu' for good measure but to no avail.

There is probably a better way to fix the issue directly but I was poking about in the terminal and found a program called 'pinephonepro-post-install' which sounded interesting and after running sudo pinephonepro-post-install it seems to have generated some trusted keys and then let me update using 'sudo pacman -Syu' without issue.

If anyone has any suggestions for a better way to get updates working on the pre-loaded Manjaro/Plasma system, then it could be useful to let others folks know so that they can easily update to the most recent version of Manjaro and Plasma Mobile and test it out on their new Pinephone Pro.


Shutdown
Not sure why this happens but it seems that with my Pinephone Pro, if it's plugged in to a charger then it will start up automatically. Even if it's the underpowered charger that doesn't charge the battery.

Pressing and holding the Power button for 8 seconds will shut the phone down
-A long press of the power button will bring up the Shutdown, Restart options in Plasma Mobile too - shutdown works from there: looks like it has stalled for a little while but then shuts down nicely.
'sudo shutdown now' in the Terminal also works similarly.

BUT if the charging cable is plugged in (even if it's not giving enough power to charge the battery) it starts up again immediately after shutdown.

This may be specific to my Pinephone Pro, but it seems like at the moment it isn't possible to charge the phone without the phone switching on. It might be different when I get a suitable charger, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else is experiencing this same behaviour with their Pinephone Pro.

Hi All

Just when I got everything installed and working the way I wanted (including waydroid) , I discovered that I have lost all sounds.
I get no sound on testing the Left/Right speaker test. All settings appear enabled.
Phone ring and speaker both silent.

However I did get rid of a lot of apps in waydroid.
So I uninstalled waydroid and purged everything to do with it. Still no sound.

I have backup .img files, and concluded that waydroid or removing apps was to blame.
I did read somewhere that it takes over the sound control.

Does anyone have any experience or knows how to re-assign the sound back to Mobian.

Regards

EDIT:
Noted that the following services are masked.
alsa-utils.service , it also has no content.
pulseaudio-enable-autospawn.service, it also has no content.
alsa-state.service is static but has content
alsa.restore.service is static but has content.

Now just to figure out which service should be started and running.

Tried removing and re-installing alsa-utils

Is there any consensus as to which distro is, at present, the most functional in terms of using the Pinephone Pro as a phone? 

All opinions welcome.

Can someone give me a pointer to where I can get an Arch image distro for the PinePhone?
TNX

From PINE64 on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thepine64/status/148...8570942472

"PSA: Do _not_ flash OG #PinePhone OS images to the #PinePhonePro. If you do, however, here are recovery instructions.

PinePhone Pro software releases Wiki page: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_P...e_Releases"

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Looking ahead and seeing what problems the pros on the various forums and chat channels have dealt with, it looks like there are a few bits of hardware needed to be sure you can easily rescue your phone.

The first is an extra card and a way to write images to it.
The Pine 64 shop offers this: https://pine64.com/product/64gb-class10-microsd-card/

Another item that the pros are using is a serial cable.
The Pine 64 shop offers one and it is a great deal: https://pine64.com/product/pinebook-pine...l-console/
I am going to make one, since it would take forever to get here. I will base mine on this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TXV...UTF8&psc=1
There are pre made serial cables for this sort of thing on Amazon, but all of them I have seen have the tip and ring reversed. For those who are new to the term tip and ring, they are ancient terms. The tip is the connection at the end of the jack. In this case a 3.5mm stereo jack. The ring is the middle connection and the shaft is the base. From what I have been able to find, it looks like the Pine64 standard is tip=rx, ring=tx, and the shaft=gnd. As I said before, most similar items on Amazon show the opposite for tip and ring.

Using the serial cable if you are old school like me, is going to be a pain but not a crazy pain. Expect a learning curve unless you have used one or you are the type that doesn't mind using a bash shell to configure things.

Another issue that has come up is completely discharged batteries. Apparently, if your battery is entirely discharged, then the software to control your battery charging is not going to have power and not be able to charge your battery. So it looks like a spare battery and an external charger might be smart to have.
The PineStore has one: https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-lithium-battery/ but it is currently out of stock. From the data I have gotten it matches with the Samsung EB-BJ700BBC,  EB-BJ700BBE, or EB-BJ700CBE from the 2015 J7 phone.

As far as a charger goes, it might be easy to make a simple charger if you can precisely control power and keep from charging too fast. I will be going with this item just for the convenience: https://www.amazon.com/Onite-Universal-B...B01JZLHTHG
Hopefully it works.

In any case, having an extra battery you can swap out is not a bad thing to have. Hopefully I never need the serial cable, but I have had cell phones brick before and I would rather have a way to unbrick mine ready.

Hello dear fellow pinephonians.

I recently got my pinephone keyboard and was too excited to search for proper instructions,
so i connected the keyboard, while the pinephone was running. I have no idea, if this was the
problem, or if i created the damage on some other way, but my wifi (also bluetooth) does not work anymore.

I am running arch linux with phosh. The wifi card is properly detected and can be disabled/enabled via phosh ui or nmcli,
but whatever i try, i can't seem to find any networks.
I also tried searching from the terminal, using

I could not find detailed specifications wrt the SD card slot, only that it can use SDHC and SDXC cards. Does anyone know if the SD card slot supports UHS-II bus class (which has "two rows of contacts" on the UHXC card I believe)? Or, to be more specific of my needs, is it realistic to hope for SD card *write* speeds of 100MB/s?

I ask as I would like to use a class UHS-II and v90 SDXC card to stream from a StructureCore sensor (occipitals depth sensor). The scanner do work on the PinePhone PRO - I have successfully compiled and run it on the PRO. Output is about 9fps, twice the result for the original PinePhone, however, also with more computationally intensive options available. I only guess the reason is that computational power increased more than data throughput?

Hi. I received today my Pinephone pro explorer. I installed I and found some advises and a little bit problem that I want to share with you. I already put then in pine64 telegram but I did not know about the forum. So I will put it here as well for you to know

News about PinePhone Pro and PineTab in Nemo, Release 0.7.1, and more..

https://blog.mlich.cz/2022/01/nemomobile...uary-2022/