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Just got my Pinecil |
Posted by: donwynne - 03-15-2022, 09:11 PM - Forum: General
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Hey all.
[color=#666666]I just got my Pinecil. Immediately hooked it up to PD and tested it. I'm impressed at how quickly it heats up given the wattage I allocated to it. (I went into advanced settings and limited it to 15 watts, mostly to compare it to a similar-sized soldering pencil I had lying around.) I did notice one thing odd though. I didn't use it for very long (just long enough to dip the tip in some tinning compound and clean it), but the space around the "+" button seemed to get noticeably warm. Not burning hot, mind you, but given that the housing is made out of plastic, it got warm enough to make me wonder how hot the components underneath were getting. Anyone else noticed this? Should I be concerned?
Don
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Post sticky link with important links for PPP |
Posted by: tckosvic - 03-15-2022, 08:41 AM - Forum: General Discussion of PinePhone Pro
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Could someone with knowledge and access post a sticky (retained) thread that provides:
1. address for latest software version for each OS/desktop, e.g., https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_P...e_Releases this link is ok but needs review and updating
2. address for where to post bugs for each OS/desktop
If more bugs could be pointed out to the developers maybe obvious things that need immediate attention, such as phone discharging to zero while on the charger, might get addressed. There is daily a new thread regarding discharged phones. To me that is a high priority thing but that doesn't seem to be happening.
tom kosvic
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PP Keybboard Charging Improvement |
Posted by: drh - 03-15-2022, 05:32 AM - Forum: PinePhone Accessories
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I just want to express thanks to the developers for a recent improvement on the software side.
Recent updates to Mobian has resulted in the keyboard battery charge level to be displayed in the Settings - Power module. I did not need to do a manual install of a package.
For me, the ability to see the charge status of the keyboard battery is a big improvement because it helps me better understand how to use the keyboard battery.
I hope this improvement applies to all of the distros that run on the PP. If not now, hopefully in the near future.
Cheers!
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Scripting Bluetooth Hotspot for Mobian |
Posted by: biketool - 03-14-2022, 10:47 AM - Forum: Mobian on PinePhone
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We already have almost everything we need here.
I want to get Bluetooth hotspot working on my Mobian/Pinephone, Bluetooth tethering a laptop or tablet while on the train, hotel, during a power outage, or at coffee is a basic daily driver phone requirement in my opinion.
I am sure the modern kernel has the required modules but I don't know what the interface name for bluetooth network interface for the pinephones bt driver; bnep0 is the interface used on this old N900 script.
I think this is an easy edit to the other network interfaces like USB already in the wiki unless iptables has changed much since the 2010s.
BT PAN tethering is by far the best and easiest way to tether to your phone's internet connection vs WiFi which wastes far more electricity per Mb transmitted for little benefit other than maybe easier sharing a wifi password with friends vs them having to pair with you on BT. The security is provided by the bluetooth pairing process.
Below is the scripting to get full service, including DHCP, automatic Bluetooth PAN hotspot running on the Nokia N900, how much will work as is?.
Code: install the iptables package:
apt-get install iptables
create the following 2 files:
/etc/udev/rules.d/98-bnep0.rules:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL=="bnep0", RUN+="/etc/udev/bluenet.sh"
ACTION=="remove", SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL=="bnep0", RUN+="/etc/udev/bluenet.sh"
/etc/udev/bluenet.sh:
#! /bin/sh
if [ $ACTION = "add" ]; then
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING ! -o lo -j MASQUERADE
ifconfig bnep0 192.168.3.1
ifconfig bnep0 up
/usr/sbin/dnsmasq -I lo -z -a 192.168.3.1 -F 192.168.3.64,192.168.3.127 -x /var/run/dnsmasq.pid.bnep0
else
iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING ! -o lo -j MASQUERADE
if [ -f /var/run/dnsmasq.pid.bnep0 ]; then
DNSMASQ_PID=`cat /var/run/dnsmasq.pid.bnep0`
rm -f /var/run/dnsmasq.pid.bnep0
kill $DNSMASQ_PID
fi
fi
then set /etc/udev/bluenet.sh as executible:
chmod +x /etc/udev/bluenet.sh
now whenever an authorised remote device makes a bluetooth pan (nap) connection iptables and dnsmasq are setup to allow that device access to the phones network. TODO: when no internet connection is active ask to set it up
The mobian wiki has instructions for USB, and LAN, WIfi hotspot is included but bluetooth PAN entry is not yet explained in the wiki.
https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php...networking
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Pine Phone Pro issues |
Posted by: gmastap - 03-14-2022, 07:21 AM - Forum: PinePhone Pro Hardware
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Hello all,
I have bought a Pine Phone Pro and I am stuck from the beginning.
I updated the delivered manjaro to the latest version and played a bit and I am quite happy.
No w I was trying to install mobian to one of my SD cards but the only thing I get are read errors from the SD Cards slot as well as I/O Errors.
Okay, I spoke to the developers, go thre remark mayto change to two boots firmware.
Trying that getting everything ready on two different SD cards, Samsung and San Disk it also Failed to start with the RE button pressed as described.
Even booting into the working majaro gives me error when I try to write to the SD cards.
I have no further ideas anymore. Do you have any suggestion ?
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PP Keyboard - Top Row Actuation |
Posted by: johnnycontrario - 03-13-2022, 11:10 PM - Forum: PinePhone Accessories
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I'm late to the party on the PinePhone keyboard's top row (number row) actuation issue, but I found 2 solutions to this problem that are simpler than making tiny washer-shaped spacers.
For anyone who has been living under a rock, here are the symptoms:
When pressing a key on the top row of the PinePhone keyboard, the key stroke does not register at the tactile bump. One has to keep pressing the key beyond the tactile bump for the key to register. That last bit of travel is very squishy, and this is the observation that eventually allowed me to understand the root cause of the issue.
The solutions:
- Add a tiny strip or 2 of tape on the inner face of the key cap on the hinge side.
(no need for a shim going all the way around).
With a pair of good scissors and some tweezers, this is a very easy and fast solution. On my keyboard, a single strip of masking tape made a huge difference, and adding a second one seemed to make it feel a little better.
In my mind, the cons are durability and adhesive compatibility. I imagine the strips eventually shifting around or falling out of place.
![[Image: 8O72z01.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/8O72z01.jpeg)
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- Remove some material from the hinge-side rim of the keycap.
This solution was the most effective and resolves the root cause of the problem with no compromises.
![[Image: f3Hmj2v.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/f3Hmj2v.jpeg)
![[Image: asU2iGP.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/asU2iGP.jpeg)
![[Image: t73nWer.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/t73nWer.jpeg)
But why tho?
Here's how I found these solutions.
I started by validating the original solution of shimming the inside depth of the keycap (vertical distance between inner face and outer rim). I measured a keycap from the top row with high precision vernier calipers and compared this measurement with the the lower row keycaps.
I found no difference.
To rule out the membrane switches on the top row, I moved a number row keycap to one of the letter rows and the problem followed the keycap. I also noticed that all of the membrane switches registered key presses perfectly without a keycap present. After doing a lot more measuring and playing with the membrane key behavior, I realized that when pressing a keyswitch down, the surrounding membrane is displaced and needs somewhere to go.
The top row keycap doesn't have enough space under the hinge side of the cap. The displaced membrane binds against the rim, preventing it from traveling all the way down. Because of this, the conductive ring under the membrane can't make it all the way down to the contacts unless you press harder to flatten the displaced rubber.
![[Image: uatYtXS.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/uatYtXS.jpeg)
To illustrate how it's supposed to work, here's what a lower row keycap looks like when depressed.
![[Image: t2IHh5a.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/t2IHh5a.jpeg)
Here is how my solutions work.
- Adding a shim so the hinge side of the keycap makes that side not travel as far, creating room for the displaced membrane under the rim. It has a slightly squishy feel, but the key actuates reliably at the tactile bump.
![[Image: mNp8aq4.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/mNp8aq4.jpeg)
- Removing the portion of keycap that interferes with the displaced membrane allows the keycap to travel all the way down as intended.
I say this solution is no compromises because the modification is completely hidden from view, it solves the root cause of the problem, and they key does not feel squishy at all. It feels absolutely great.
![[Image: owVTtiN.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/owVTtiN.jpeg)
(Pictured is the proof of concept test. The final modification removed a bit more material than you see here.)
I hope someone finds this info useful.
Thanks!
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CPU Thermal Pad Specs |
Posted by: mfritsche - 03-13-2022, 12:46 PM - Forum: Pinebook Pro Hardware and Accessories
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Hi,
i traced my intermittent issues with crashes to inappropriate cooling of the cpu.
Right now, to tp2 pads and a 2€ct. piece work ok for normal work loads.
What would be the measurements of the original thermal pad? I am planning to replace that with a chip of copper.
Tia.
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