Sometimes, when pressing the power button to un suspend the phone, the screen stays black.

I noticed two different cases:

- Swiping from the top of the screen sometimes "wakes it up" (try it if it happens to you, can save you a reboot).
- Nothing can get the screen to display something, I have to hard-reboot (not just boot, I have to stop it first by an ~8s press, then to boot it with a ~4s press).

So yes, Mobian is still running when it happen, I "tested" it only once as I was listening music, the screen was staying black while the musing was playing. I had to hard reboot this time.

Does it happen to you too?

Can you please give me a list of Pine64 single-board computers that don't have Wi-Fi nor Bluetooth on the board itself?

Question about whether I buggered my PBP up at a deep level, far beyond my abilities to repair...

Received my new PBP and it booted up fine for the first time. As expected, Manjaro prompted me to update it, so I went ahead with it. Straightforward of course but it took awhile as there seemed to be quite a few updates, but nothing unusual. However, at the end the process the screen went to what looked like a terminal screen, with a warning about "knowing what you are doing and the potential consequences”. I didn't pay too much attention as I figured doing the update through the GUI would keep me out of any serious trouble, so I didn't make any detailed notes. Anyways, it hung on the terminal screen for 15-20 minutes doing nothing, so I pressed <enter> to see if it needed the " OK" to proceed. Nothing happened for a long time again. So, I thought the only other option (which was probably a bad decision!)  was to force it to reboot using the power button.

After it shut down, I powered it on again. The screen just went black (no visuals at all), with the power light blinking on and off every few seconds.

I then started to hunt through the forum messages for solutions.

I tried letting it sit for a long time in case the boot was just really slow after the update, but no luck. I can force it off with the power button. I have cycled it on and off quite a few times, but nothing has changed.

Eventually, I loaded Manjaro-ARM-kde-plasma-pbpro-23.02.IMG onto an SD card. The PBP booted up from the card and seems to function fine. I have removed and reinserted the card and rebooted and it all seems good.

So, my question is, can I somehow safely load Manjaro onto the eMMC (I think that's how it works?) instead of running off the SD card all the time? Or did I mess something up on the eMMC that needs work?

I think the fellow forum members can tell by now that I'm pretty green at this and bought the PBP to learn on. Unfortunately the learning started without even getting to use it once before I made it go kaput. However, it is a bit sketchy that the update function can end up with the process going sideways.


Thanks for any thoughts. I just want to see if it is OK to try installing Manjaro on the PineBook.

Hello all,

My Pinebook Pro said the other day it needed to go on powersupply, so I plugged the jack in. After some 10 minutes the sceen turned grey of the series I was watching (Homicide - life on the streets; highly recommended btw!). Sound lasted for a few more seconds and then everything went down.
On reboot it showed the Manjaro welcome screen asking for a login and then everything just went down again. The battery indicator is at 0%.

The led is actually indicating that there's some voltage coming in when I plug in the adapter that was delivered with the laptop, but apparentely it's not reaching the battery. The bottom of the laptop used to get really warm, but nothing is heating up when plugged in.

So I'm wondering if this is a common problem with a common solution.

Any help much appreciated!

Noticed significant impact of Bluetooth connection established on WIFI 2.4 GHZ speed:
-BT audio enabled would decrease WIFI speed from 20MBits to ~10 or less Mbits  Download speed
Impact not observed on Wifi 5G connection speed.

Are there any VPN's that work on PostmarketOS ? I would be using on the Pinephone CE; Pinebook Pro and Rock Pro 64. I usually use Proton VPN or Mullvad but i'm not overly picky.

Hi all,

When my pinephone wake up after sleeping period, i have noticed this problems.

-network manager in app parameters disappear.
-network icon not present on left top side

After Few seconds of wake up, all reappear and my SIM is locked.

This logs can be the cause, particulary "06:30:48" line "couldn't query SIM slots: QMI protocol error (94): 'NotSupported'".

I have recently got PostmarketOS setup on my Pinebook pro and am enjoying it. I am missing a few programs from my desktop though and was wondering if there is a way to get them on PostmarketOS. They are Plank and Psensor. If Plank is a no go is there a way to adjust Gnome Dash to always be visible ?

I have seen a similar thread below but I think this is a different problem and I would like some advice on how to further investigate this.

I can not make phone calls with this new PinePhone Beta convergence (3GB RAM). The phone establishes a 3G connection and I am able to send and receive text messages. Outgoing calls end immediately, incoming calls go to the voicemail at the network provider.

What I have tried:

1) 2 different SIM cards (both work fine on FP2 with UT and on an android phone)

2) 3 different distros, latest releases of Manjaro (Phosh), Mobian (Phosh) and PostmarketOS (Phosh) in combination wit both SIM cards. Presently Mobian with Kernel 6.1

3) I have run the Beta Edition factory test OS build from SD card and the modem Debugger shows no abnormalities (see attachment)

4) I tried to set network manually at 3G as in suggested in the previous thread.

5) Things work on my original PinePhone (UB Ports CE) .

Any suggestions how to investigate this further or what else to try ?

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Updated on 14.10.2023

Short background so you can understands the starting points
I prefer myself as a skilled end user of mobile linux - so I am not developer (what ever that means in 2023) but I understand little bit about something.
I have been daily driving* mobile linux for many years. I have been also using linux as desktop machines as long as I remember.
*Really daily driving so if you have never used mobile linux before please note that your experience might be very much different than mine

This review talks
Mostly about Phosh because it is currently the most stable and easiest DE to operate out of the box. Some things are similar with other DE's but I have not tried them so intense.
Mostly about PPP as a phone - because after all it is Pinephone Pro .

Let's start with what I think is the last thing that gets in the way of daily driving PPP:
There are some callaudio issues which are not solved yet and for me it is show stopper. Reported issues:
https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/issues/2016
https://gitlab.com/pine64-org/pine64-als...-/issues/5
https://gitlab.com/pine64-org/pine64-als...requests/9
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if you turn wifi/bluetooth killswitch off (as in you kill wifi/bluetooth) callaudio will suspend in seconds and makes calling impossible. Megi has all ready fixed this but the fix is not yet landed to distros.

How to achieve stable phone state? (excluding callaudio)
I never get any phone calls trough to suspended PPP if I was not using Biktorgjs firmware and all recommended settings - I really love it but because carriers work so differently it is hard to recommend it without any conditions. For me PP or PPP would not be a reliable phone without Biktorgjs awesome work.
https://github.com/the-modem-distro/pinephone_modem_sdk
postmarketOS and danct arch where the two distros where all phone functions did work. With all others I did face some issues.
To have more working callaudio I suggest to use pulseaudio instead of pipewire-pulse and wireplumber (in my testing wireplumber will cause lot of failures when routing callaudio and that combined with the above issues is pain) - this has downside for camera usage but which one do you want to choose?
Also to use PPP as a phone you sure want to make sure you have battery when you need it - so key is to suspend as fast as possible and as much as possible.

I daily drived Pinephone Pro for a few weeks - how did it go?
I charge my PPP as full as it gets in the evening. Then it rests next to me until morning (on suspend without charger) and wakes me up - I do have backup alarm clock because Pinephone did freeze few times but I have not seen it with PPP. (With pmos alarm clock works out of the box)
After 8-10 hours of suspend my PPP has something like 80% battery.
I go to work and I use PPP as my work phone - I answer calls and send messages trough it.
After week of intense daily driving I have 0 failed calls and 0 failed sms/mms (I monitor them trough my carrier platform).
I have also dock and display so I can plug PPP to dock and use it as a computer - and it just works!
For me biggest difference to PP is that "convergence connection to external display" is stable as f*ck - PP was more proof of concept and really terrible to use (at least it feels like this after I have used PPP).
When my PPP is in dock it will at the same time be in charger - don't use dock with external display without charger because your battery will die like in 15-30 minutes.
I am usually at work for like 10 hours and when I get home in the evening I still have 30-50% battery.
If I have been using dock it will have charged the phone - yes. But if I have not used the dock my phone have been suspended most of the time and the battery is about in the same level.

What I am really happy about?
Finally I have true convergence linux phone which I can reliable use as a phone also.
Pinephone Pro is as fast as phone needs to be -> yes I would love to have even faster phone but this is enough so I can show it to my friend and say test it and he/she might even like it.

What are the cons?
Pinephone Pro is not device where you watch Youtube videos or play mobile games - it will drain your battery.
You can't do any intensive stuff when docked because phone gets really hot - but hey it's phone not super pc.

What does not work (or works only as proof of concept)
Mostly familiar things from OG PP:
camera (but I think in a "near future" libcamera will bring lot lot of evolve to this)
speaker on calls (see the issue links above)
internet notifications when suspended

For who I recommend PPP?
You can live without constant phone browsing when you are on the road
In your regular day you have opportunity to charge phone in cycles of 10 hours
You don't need internet (email etc.) notifications asap
You have linux end user knowledge or the desire to learn for yourself
You don't except that everything works out of the box (because it does not you have to settle for compromises in many things)