Pinebook Pro Initial Impressions
I received my PBP this morning (at 7:35am!). These are my first impressions.

TL;DR:
Great initial experience. Perfect for my laptop workloads and use cases. Solid build (both hardware and software).

Packaging and hardware
It arrived in the same packaging as everyone has been reporting. Minimalist but well protected. A foam sleave inside two cardboard boxes, inside a jiffy bag, inside a plastic DHL bag. The power supply cam separate and with a European power plug. Unfortunately for me, not with a UK plug. Probably not an issue in the future because I will charge off USB-C but I had to dig out my travel plug to make it work today.

I noticed that the laptop now has a large label on the back with the model spec, FCCID and CE logos on it. There is no longer a sticker on the palm rest that indicates the size of the eMMC.

Operating System
I powered on the device and it booted into the OS as expected. The device came with 92% battery charge.

After logging in to the rock/rock account, I connected to the WiFI and did a quick update:
Code:
$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt upgrade
This seems to have worked as expected. Completely transparent with any other version of Debian based OS-es that I am familiar with.
I quickly moved on to trying Chromium (haven't gone near Firefox yet) and it worked as expected. No issues firing up YouTube and running some 1080p videos. The system averaged at about 70% CPU usage (I did a quick estimate using htop). All six cores were doing stuff but none of them were particularly busy.
Then, quickly on to creating myself a user. I used adduser. After creating the user I added the user to the sudo group in /etc/group. When logging in to the new user account, I noticed that it booted into the standard MATE desktop. No Pine background and no Pine desktop layout like the rock/rock account. Doesn't really matter. I can do those customisations later. I also had to make sure that the keyboard layout was corrected. It defaulted to English (US). I needed English (UK). That was quickly resolved.

I made sure that the Keyboard and Trackpad firmware were updated with the instructions on the forum. This was effortless. Thank you for the good instructions for this.

I installed the CPU temperature indicator on the panel to give me some idea of how hot it gets. During normal use (whilst I am typing this article) it has not gone above 19°C. CPU clock frequency is set to Ondemand and it seems to happily bounce between 408MHz and 1.51GHz as required. I noticed that on the rock/rock account, the CPU frequency widget showed a 1.99GHz option. On the MATE standard desktop, when using my new user, it tops out at 1.51GHz. I'll need to look into why this might be. I doubt the hardware will not go beyond this and that this is a software limitation.

Applications
I had no issue running any of the included applications. LibreOffice Writer performs as expected, Chromium does its thing. The terminal is just like any other.
I did try to run some other apps because I would like to be able to at least show them in a demo context. So, I tried installing Blender (blender.org) and Reaper (https://reaper.fm).

I pulled Blender (v2.79) from the standard repos by doing sudo apt-get install blender. Installation was without a problem. However, Blender will not run and exits with: "Error! Blender requires OpenGL 2.1 to run. Try updating your drivers.". Something to look into. As a side note: I tried this on the Raspberry Pi 4 over the weekend and Blender installed and ran perfectly. Not sure whether there is some kind of driver issue here or whether this is me not having had enough time to get things working properly.

When installing and running Reaper I get an interesting error message. It exits with: "bash: ./reaper: No such file or directory". Not sure what this is about. The file clearly exists (I just ran it). So I think there may be a permissions thing going wrong here. Haven't worked it out yet.

Peripherals
At first, neither of the USB ports on the laptop appeared to be working. I attached a wired mouse and there was no power to the mouse. After a few minutes use of the laptop, this seemed to correct itself though. At first the USB port on the right hand side started working and then the one on the left hand side worked as well.

I have managed to power the laptop off the USB-C port but my dock (Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 Dock) and dongle (Anker Premium 5-in-1 USB-C Hub) don't seem to be able to provide connectivity for peripherals yet. So I will have to do some more research there. As I mentioned, power from the dock worked fine. I have not tried my Belkin USB-C dock yet.

Conclusion
I love the PBP so far. It's a great build and as a daily driver the experience seems to be very similar to my Lenovo Thinkpad T460s on Ubuntu 19.04. Performance wise it may be a little bit behind but I can cope with that. I use my laptop mainly for document creation (Wikis, Office, Gimp etc.), media (Youtube etc.), terminal work, web apps (Draw.io, Slack, Skype, WhatsApp etc.) and web browsing.

So far I am having a great experience. First impressions of the system after 3 hours are very positive! Thank you Pine64.

<<UPDATE>>
The standard temperature panel app does not appear to be working. The CPU is definitely warmer than 19°C.  Smile I'll have to find a way to read out the temps correctly.

<<UPDATE>>
When trying to install Reaper (https://reaper.fm) yesterday I tried to install the AArch64 binary. It wouldn't work because the correct one to download and use from the Reaper website is the armv71 binary. Reaper now runs fine. I have yet to do any work with it but the fat that it runs is a good start.


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Well, almost first impressions, having overcome, or worked around most of the issues that have been well documented in the forum, what remains on my list are the following ..
1.  Truncation of sound clips in Firefox. I am using Duolingo where, on playing a sound clip, up to a couple of seconds can be missing from the end.
2.  Occasional failure to resume from suspend, only way out seems to be the extended press of the power button.
3.  The power adapter supplied has a "universal" connection to the socket.  I can understand why only one style of connector is offered (US or European) but it would be nice if a wider selection could be offered, I would like both UK and US options available as add ons (or part no & manufacturer).
I have been waiting for this laptop for seven years, so congratulations to the team for making it happen!!
If you are brave ( or foolish ?) enough to go for a Mark II you will have my order.  Many, many thanks.
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(12-30-2019, 08:39 AM)giav Wrote: Well, almost first impressions, having overcome, or worked around most of the issues that have been well documented in the forum, what remains on my list are the following ..
1.  Truncation of sound clips in Firefox. I am using Duolingo where, on playing a sound clip, up to a couple of seconds can be missing from the end.
2.  Occasional failure to resume from suspend, only way out seems to be the extended press of the power button.
3.  The power adapter supplied has a "universal" connection to the socket.  I can understand why only one style of connector is offered (US or European) but it would be nice if a wider selection could be offered, I would like both UK and US options available as add ons (or part no & manufacturer).
I have been waiting for this laptop for seven years, so congratulations to the team for making it happen!!
If you are brave ( or foolish ?) enough to go for a Mark II you will have my order.  Many, many thanks.

@giav  Re 3 : if you contact sales@pine64.org they can supply you with the specific 3-pin mains UK slide-on adaptor for the power unit quite cheap however the postage is a killer at $10 so best order something with it to make it "worth it".  Smile
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(Today December 31, 2019)
Quick Update :
 Just heard from the Pine Team,  My Pinebook Pro with ANSI keyboard is

     "scheduled to be shipped in ten days, then 2 to 5 days expected DHL delivery time"

               Thank You Pine Team for the email  !

Soo,  those who ordered the ANSI option,  our time is NEAR !
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(12-30-2019, 04:28 AM)Twix166 Wrote: I received my PBP this morning (at 7:35am!). These are my first impressions.

TL;DR:
Great initial experience. Perfect for my laptop workloads and use cases. Solid build (both hardware and software).

< SNIP >

<<UPDATE>>
When trying to install Reaper (https://reaper.fm) yesterday I tried to install the AArch64 binary. It wouldn't work because the correct one to download and use from the Reaper website is the armv71 binary. Reaper now runs fine. I have yet to do any work with it but the fat that it runs is a good start.

I'm really interested in your experience with Reaper. Especially how you may get on with external audio interface, etc.
I'm looking at a similar attempt with Ardour and plugins, when mine arrives. If you're interested, a thread on this would be welcomed.
— Jeremiah Cornelius
"Be the first person not to do some­thing, that no one has thought of not doing before’’
— Brian Eno, "Oblique Strategies"
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(12-31-2019, 12:11 PM)Jeremiah Cornelius Wrote: I'm really interested in your experience with Reaper. Especially how you may get on with external audio interface, etc.
I'm looking at a similar attempt with Ardour and plugins, when mine arrives. If you're interested, a thread on this would be welcomed.

I'll let you know how I get on. I'll be looking into it over the next couple of weeks. It is kind of a small experiment because all of the studio workflows are my wife's. She has them all running on macOS at the moment. I am interested in finding out if Arm based Linux is a viable alterrnative.
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(12-31-2019, 12:22 PM)Twix166 Wrote:
(12-31-2019, 12:11 PM)Jeremiah Cornelius Wrote: I'm really interested in your experience with Reaper. Especially how you may get on with external audio interface, etc.
I'm looking at a similar attempt with Ardour and plugins, when mine arrives. If you're interested, a thread on this would be welcomed.

I'll let you know how I get on. I'll be looking into it over the next couple of weeks. It is kind of a small experiment because all of the studio workflows are my wife's. She has them all running on macOS at the moment. I am interested in finding out if Arm based Linux is a viable alterrnative.

At the risk of sidetracking this thread further, I have just pulled down the Traction Waveform build for RPi, which I'm game for trying on the PBP, when I enable support for both 32 and 64 bit binaries.

If Harrison built for ARM, I'd be juiced.
— Jeremiah Cornelius
"Be the first person not to do some­thing, that no one has thought of not doing before’’
— Brian Eno, "Oblique Strategies"
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(12-31-2019, 12:11 PM)Jeremiah Cornelius Wrote: I'm really interested in your experience with Reaper. Especially how you may get on with external audio interface, etc.
I'm looking at a similar attempt with Ardour and plugins, when mine arrives. If you're interested, a thread on this would be welcomed.

I have posted a new thread to discuss Reaper here. TL;DR: Pretty much works out of the box...
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I've really enjoyed putting this laptop through its paces. Great design, and it has garnered positive comments from my techie friends when they've seen me using it.

I was hoping to use this as a Linux refresher platform (I don't get nearly enough Linux screen time in my job). Unfortunately, I'm at a place in my life where I don't have the time to give this the attention it deserves. Is there an appropriate forum for reselling it? It is in mint condition - probably used less than 20 hours total. It has the 128GB eMMC.
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(01-03-2020, 09:10 PM)whinsch Wrote: I've really enjoyed putting this laptop through its paces. Great design, and it has garnered positive comments from my techie friends when they've seen me using it.

I was hoping to use this as a Linux refresher platform (I don't get nearly enough Linux screen time in my job). Unfortunately, I'm at a place in my life where I don't have the time to give this the attention it deserves. Is there an appropriate forum for reselling it? It is in mint condition - probably used less than 20 hours total. It has the 128GB eMMC.

   The 'Few' others who wished to sell theirs simply started their own new threads,  they seem to have disappeared quickly.

    So I assume they sold.

The 128gb should be a plus
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