PinePhone OS & Malfunction
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(11-23-2020, 04:55 PM)ryo Wrote:
(11-21-2020, 08:25 AM)ryo Wrote:
(11-21-2020, 03:00 AM)tommaso Wrote: - The pacman grafic software the 2/3 of the times installs not working software
- Terminal: impossible to use a lot of normal terminal sofwtares, impossible to use different installers than pacman
- Manjaro is a very low compatibility with other linux softwares 
- Manjaro offers very few softwtares, often they do not work properly
- Manjaro offers very few way of setting and personalizations
- Difficult to adapt windows to the screen
- Battery runs out of energy very quickly
- System is very slow
- It bugs
In the same order:
- I'm not sure how many Manjaro users even use Pamac or Octopi, most of us are using the terminal anyway.
- What do you mean by "normal terminal softwares"? Sounds cute though. And of course you'll use pacman in Arch-based distributions. Debian/Mobian/Raspbian, *Ubuntu, Mint, etc. will use aptitude or apt. It has been like that since the 1990's even.
- ヽ(´エ`)ノ
- Yes, Manjaro's software repository isn't as extensive as what Debian and derivitives have. You can enable AUR and gain instant access to an enormous community maintained software library, almost all of which are being compiled from source, so they should work. However, AUR should not be used by beginners, so use at your own risk.
- That is a desktop environment specific issue (I guess).
- Isn't that done by default on Phosh and Plasma Mobile?
- Close apps you don't use at the time. It's not an iPhone that will freeze inactive apps for you.
- That's a very broad problem, specific please?
- Please specify?

Thanks!
For instance apt command on terminal does not work at all but I experienced that also other software is not installed.
I always close applications I do not use.
As concerning speed it is often necessary to wait a lot of time since the phone opens the requested application.
It is not "fluid".
It "bugs" in the sense that there are often a lot of failures, vibration start to work without any reason and to stop it it is necessary to restart the telephone, it is necessary to set the time and date manually, no chance that the date is syncronised automatically through internet, date and time menu does not work correctly and when installing a new application it is often necessary to reset it manually.
more: 

I definitely use the terminal and this has been the only solution.
I solved some of the problems but the OS is not efficient.
On my PCs I use Debian with different graphic solutions and it works very well!
How is this Mobian? Did you had any experience?
As concerning Manjaro the really bad thing when I managed in someway all the different problems is the following:
One of the usual and more useful things of smartphones is the possibility to save the phone numbers of the received/made calls from dial application to memory & contacts application as well as to dial numbers from the contacts application. It seems that this is not possible from the manjaro’s applications of my new device. Contact application and dial application are very very poor interfaced.
Without this possibility I think that it has no sense to use a device differently from an interesting play, my simple G2 old NOKIA can do this and, since it has no access to internet at the moment is a good privacy solution.
If the phone is also intended to be used as a phone you have to face with the everyday quick use maybe when you are in harry in the street, dial from che contact list is really a must!
 
Any suggestions?

Thanks and Best regards
My Pinephone Manjaro Edition will arrive tomorrow, they started shipping their Asian (and apparently Australian too) batches about 4 days ago, so I can't tell how any of the mobile Linux OS work, and all of my suggestions are based off my experiences with Linux on PC and servers, and Ubuntu Touch on my old Nexus 5.

The "apt" command is specific for Debian-based distro, Manjaro is Arch-based so it uses "pacman" instead.
If you want to make it yourself easier, paste this into your ~/.bashrc file on your Manjaro phone:
Code:
alias installapp="pacman -S"
alias refreshapp="pacman -Sy"
alias updateapp="pacman -Syyu"
alias searchapp="pacman -Ss"
alias removeapp="pacman -R"

And on your Debian PC:
Code:
alias installapp="apt install"
alias refreshapp="apt update"
alias updateapp="apt upgrade"
alias searchapp="apt search"
alias removeapp="apt remove"

Or change the aliases in whatever language is your native (mine is an east Asian language, and most of the terms are English loan words too, so not possible in my case), or just whatever is convenient to you.
But that way you'll have the same commands on both machines.
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Thanks indeed!

Have you got any idea in which way it would be possible to make so that contacts and dial software work together? Are there any other software for dialing and contacts? More precisely: Once dialed or received a phone number it is not possible to save in in the contacts and when you save a contact or when you find a contact in the contact application it is impossible to start directly a phone call. This is really uncomfortable especially if you are not sitting at a desk.

Thanks again, Best Regards


Messages In This Thread
PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by tommaso - 11-21-2020, 03:00 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by tommaso - 11-23-2020, 07:16 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by ryo - 11-23-2020, 04:55 PM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by tommaso - 11-25-2020, 08:46 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by ryo - 11-25-2020, 04:03 PM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by ryo - 11-21-2020, 08:25 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by hiimtye - 11-21-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by tommaso - 11-23-2020, 01:53 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by ryo - 11-23-2020, 04:47 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by tommaso - 12-12-2020, 02:43 AM
RE: PinePhone OS & Malfunction - by evilbunny - 12-12-2020, 05:25 AM

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