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  Pine Phone Pro issues
Posted by: gmastap - 03-14-2022, 07:21 AM - Forum: PinePhone Pro Hardware - No Replies

Hello all,

I have bought a Pine Phone Pro and I am stuck from the beginning. 

I updated the delivered manjaro to the latest version and played a bit and I am quite happy. 

No w I was trying to install mobian to one of my SD cards but the only thing I get are read errors from the SD Cards slot as well as I/O Errors.

Okay, I spoke to the developers, go thre remark mayto change to two boots firmware. 

Trying that getting everything ready on two different SD cards, Samsung and San Disk it also Failed to start with the RE button pressed as described. 


Even booting into the working majaro gives me error when I try to write to the SD cards. 



I have no further ideas anymore. Do you have any suggestion ?


  PP Keyboard - Top Row Actuation
Posted by: johnnycontrario - 03-13-2022, 11:10 PM - Forum: PinePhone Accessories - Replies (10)

I'm late to the party on the PinePhone keyboard's top row (number row) actuation issue, but I found 2 solutions to this problem that are simpler than making tiny washer-shaped spacers.



For anyone who has been living under a rock, here are the symptoms:

When pressing a key on the top row of the PinePhone keyboard, the key stroke does not register at the tactile bump. One has to keep pressing the key beyond the tactile bump for the key to register. That last bit of travel is very squishy, and this is the observation that eventually allowed me to understand the root cause of the issue.


The solutions:

  1. Add a tiny strip or 2 of tape on the inner face of the key cap on the hinge side.
    (no need for a shim going all the way around).

    With a pair of good scissors and some tweezers, this is a very easy and fast solution. On my keyboard, a single strip of masking tape made a huge difference, and adding a second one seemed to make it feel a little better.
    In my mind, the cons are durability and adhesive compatibility. I imagine the strips eventually shifting around or falling out of place.
    [Image: 8O72z01.jpeg]

     --- or ---

  2. Remove some material from the hinge-side rim of the keycap.

    This solution was the most effective and resolves the root cause of the problem with no compromises.
    [Image: f3Hmj2v.jpeg]
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    [Image: t73nWer.jpeg]


But why tho?
Here's how I found these solutions.

I started by validating the original solution of shimming the inside depth of the keycap (vertical distance between inner face and outer rim). I measured a keycap from the top row with high precision vernier calipers and compared this measurement with the the lower row keycaps.

I found no difference.

To rule out the membrane switches on the top row, I moved a number row keycap to one of the letter rows and the problem followed the keycap. I also noticed that all of the membrane switches registered key presses perfectly without a keycap present. After doing a lot more measuring and playing with the membrane key behavior, I realized that when pressing a keyswitch down, the surrounding membrane is displaced and needs somewhere to go.

The top row keycap doesn't have enough space under the hinge side of the cap. The displaced membrane binds against the rim, preventing it from traveling all the way down. Because of this, the conductive ring under the membrane can't make it all the way down to the contacts unless you press harder to flatten the displaced rubber.
[Image: uatYtXS.jpeg]

To illustrate how it's supposed to work, here's what a lower row keycap looks like when depressed.
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Here is how my solutions work.
  1. Adding a shim so the hinge side of the keycap makes that side not travel as far, creating room for the displaced membrane under the rim. It has a slightly squishy feel, but the key actuates reliably at the tactile bump.[Image: mNp8aq4.jpeg]

  2. Removing the portion of keycap that interferes with the displaced membrane allows the keycap to travel all the way down as intended.
    I say this solution is no compromises because the modification is completely hidden from view, it solves the root cause of the problem, and they key does not feel squishy at all. It feels absolutely great.
    [Image: owVTtiN.jpeg]
    (Pictured is the proof of concept test. The final modification removed a bit more material than you see here.)


I hope someone finds this info useful.

Thanks!


  CPU Thermal Pad Specs
Posted by: mfritsche - 03-13-2022, 12:46 PM - Forum: Pinebook Pro Hardware and Accessories - Replies (1)

Hi,

i traced my intermittent issues with crashes to inappropriate cooling of the cpu. 

Right now, to tp2 pads and a 2€ct. piece work ok for normal work loads.

What would be the measurements of the original thermal pad? I am planning to replace that with a chip of copper. 

Tia.


Question No connection to internet without wifi :/
Posted by: elode - 03-13-2022, 08:49 AM - Forum: PostmarketOS on PinePhone - Replies (3)

Hello  Smile
I received my pinephone pro in February 2022.

I installed postmarket os and it works pretty well, except for one thing:
I can't connect to the internet without wifi. In other words, as soon as I leave my house, I no longer have access to the Internet.
I looked in the settings and there, I checked "Mobile Data" and "Data Roaming".
In the advanced settings > Access Point Names, I chose the one that seems to me to be the one that corresponds to my provider… nothing helps.

Any ideas?

Thanks Rolleyes


  OpenWRT on the Rock64
Posted by: CanadianBacon - 03-12-2022, 07:11 PM - Forum: General Discussion on ROCK64 - Replies (14)

I have started the process of getting OpenWRT working on the Rock64.

I have a working image alongside a custom repo for packages which can be found here, download links for the SD Card images are front and centre: https://openwrt.cdnbcn.net/

When installing the SD Card image, you will have to manually configure /etc/opkg/distfeeds.conf with my custom repo, however I'll fix this in a later build.

The main issues currently are as follows:
    - USB3 port isn't working
    - Onboard Ethernet doesn't reset correctly 100% of the time

The source code can be found at https://github.com/CanadianBaconBoi/openwrt/tree/rock64.
It is based on the work of lucize however it has been updated for a modern version of OpenWRT.

There is a thread with some fixes for the aforementioned issues below, however I have been short on time recently and haven't been able to get around to implementing them yet.
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11012

Any help would be greatly appreciated in pulling these in, I'll continue to host the package repo for free until this is pulled into upstream.


  Lack of incoming SMS messages...
Posted by: thechillhacker - 03-12-2022, 05:39 PM - Forum: General Discussion of PinePhone Pro - Replies (5)

Hello all.

As of about two weeks ago, my SMS messages have stopped coming in on my PPP. MMS messages, including multimedia and plaintext multiperson messages work fine, as do outgoing SMS messages, but incoming messages seem to go into a void. mmcli shows no pending messages, so it is not just the front end GUI application. Has anyone else seen this?

For the record, I am using a PPP loaded with the latest Danctnix/Arch, running Phosh, and am on a Verizon contract.

Thanks for any ideas or insight

-tch


  Re-flash the emmc
Posted by: For_lack_of_a_better_name - 03-12-2022, 03:19 PM - Forum: General Discussion of PinePhone Pro - Replies (5)

My phone will just go dead for days at a time, and it will not update. I think that my software is corrupted. How can I safely reflash the emmc?


  Shipment is on hold February,
Posted by: henrythemouse - 03-12-2022, 11:36 AM - Forum: Shipment Related Discussion - Replies (2)

Order a pine phone pro Feb 9th.
It shipped quickly, but got stuck in Los Angeles.

From DHL:
Shipment is on hold
February, 26 2022 10:07 Local time | LOS ANGELES GATEWAY, CA - USA

I've emailed sales. No response.


I submitted at ticket at:
https://desk.zoho.com/portal/pine64/en/home


I've contacted DHL. They initiated an investigation. Their finding is that the shipment has been lost.
I will try to file a claim.

Has anyone gotten DHL to pay a claim on a pine64 shipment?



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  New Pinephone Pro
Posted by: Airdale - 03-12-2022, 10:05 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (3)

Hi all!

I've recieved a new Pinephone Pro explorer edition and am about to fire it up. I've been following pinephone development closely over the past couple of years and excited to try it out.

I have a fair amount of linux experience with multiple different distros over the years. That being said, I'm not a hard core programmer but more of a tinkerer.

I had two main questions before getting started.

#1
Tow-boot vs u-boot?

Seems like the big show-stopper bug for now with the PPP is power managment. It seems like many people have installed Tow-boot to help deal with this, but there are others that seem to be making progress using the u-boot that came by default. Should I just switch over to Tow Boot right off the bat? Are there disadvantages to doing this?

#2 
Best distro to get started with at the moment

I know that people are asking this all the time, but this seems pretty fluid and changes frequently. I know that any of them will have problems and need work in development. I just was trying to get started on a reasonably good footing.

I have read that Manjaro Plasma unstable branch has made some real progress with power managment. However, it seems like people have had some significant trouble trying to update the pre-installed image of manjaro plasma on the explorer edition. Should I just flash a new image to an SD and try out that? Or has anybody sucessfully updated from the Manjaro Plasma using the unstable branch from the preflashed image.

Thanks so much for the help! Looking forward to trying this out and contributing back what I can.


  Recovery After Flashing to eMMC
Posted by: jaft - 03-12-2022, 04:03 AM - Forum: PinePhone Pro Hardware - Replies (7)

Welp; I might've bricked things. I'd followed instruction at https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePh...microSD_OS, thinking it was talking about the PinePhone Pro (maybe I got to it from a thread regarding the PPP; I don't remember, at this point), and missed the message in red at https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_P...o_the_eMMC.

Now, it won't boot at all (as far as I can tell) with a full battery or plugged into a PC. I thought I was following instructions to the letter but this one's clearly my fault. Hoping I didn't just brick my just-bought phone but thought I'd, at least, ask if there was any kind of hope for recovery, at this point.