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  Developers wanted to make out of the PinePhone a Respiratory Monitor
Posted by: Peter Gamma - 03-20-2022, 10:58 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - No Replies

For years I had trouble to find a device which can read and write to the external SD card, as my beloved Galaxy S5 with Android KitKat 4.4. could to. Beginning from Android Marshmello I was pissed of about Android and Google, and could not find a device which I was happy with.

Since my troubles with the external SD card, I realized the adantage of a device where the user has full control over the device, and I promote the PinePhone as a device for research, since researchers want freedom.

The idea to run Matlab code in Octave on the PinePhone was kindly provided by wibble :

https://petergamma.org/developer-wanted-...h-studies/


  Manjaro I3
Posted by: james64 - 03-20-2022, 06:07 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (1)

I have official Manjaro i3 ARM install on my pinebook pro. 

Today I used the laptop for the first in almost a year. I tried pacman -Syyu and it says nothing to do.

I visited Manjaro website and ARM i3 for PBP is not listed. Was it discontinued? Where can I read about that?

thanks


  [OS] SkiffOS and Buildroot for Rockpro64 w/ 5.17 kernel
Posted by: paralin1 - 03-19-2022, 09:29 PM - Forum: Linux on RockPro64 - Replies (1)

[Image: skiff.png]

Megi kernel 5.17.x with ayufan patches merged in is now available for Rockpro64 w/ SkiffOS.

SkiffOS adds a configuration layering system to the Buildroot cross-compiler, which makes it easy to re-target applications to new hardware. Layers are merged together as specified in the SKIFF_CONFIG comma-separated environment variable.

As a basic example: SKIFF_CONFIG=pine64/rockpro64,core/gentoo starts Gentoo on a Odroid N2+ in a Docker container. You can ssh to the "core" user to enter the Gentoo environment.

The default configuration produces a minimal (~100Mb) in-RAM host OS with SSH and network connectivity, and includes a comprehensive set of debug tools. The host OS can be easily remotely updated with the push_image script, using rsync.

The "skiff/core" layer enables Docker ("apps/docker") and a default environment based on Ubuntu with a full graphical desktop environment. Others including "core/gentoo" and "core/dietpi" are available.

The SkiffOS host OS separates hardware-specific support from the containerized user environments, simplifying management of updates across multiple hardware combinations.

The guide for build + flash SD card on Rockpro64 and other boards (including Pinephone):

https://github.com/skiffos/SkiffOS/tree/.../rockpro64

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Note: this is a cross-compiler, you can build it on a faster machine & install to the Odroid. (No need to build on the device).


  Warning!!- sim card adapter destroyed my sim card holder on my pine phone pro
Posted by: ANDROID2468 - 03-19-2022, 05:00 PM - Forum: PinePhone Pro Hardware - Replies (11)

I just destroyed my sim card holder on my pine phone pro. Cry Sick  
DO NOT put a sim card adapter in  the phone without a sim in it!! it will destroy  the pins in the sim holder!
(I was keeping the adapter in the phone when I was not using my pinephone so I wouldn't lose it.)

I have a phone (lg g4) that has a similar layout (SD on top of sim card). I might be able to replace the card holder with that one.


  Current State of PIne Phone Pro
Posted by: kmsgli - 03-19-2022, 07:15 AM - Forum: General Discussion of PinePhone Pro - Replies (40)

Hey folks, looking for some opinions from current PPP users.

I am a regular Pine Phone user and I use it as my daily driver. I am really happy with the sate of the software and while it has some bugs that require a restart here and there its becoming less and less almost to the point where I don't notice issue really.

The big things for me are MMS and proper wake / suspend to conserve battery as I generally have access to a charger but I hate being plugged into it all day.

That being said I really do want a faster version of what I have, I just don't know if the PPP is as far along as the regular PP as the PP had so much more development time.

I would love to hear from anyone who has upgraded from the PP to the PPP or anyone that is daily driving the PPP.

Thanks for the help.


Question Jerky wired network
Posted by: ale - 03-19-2022, 06:23 AM - Forum: Getting Started - Replies (1)

After some failed attempt to enter the network password, I managed to connect the phone to a wired network.  It works, as it got a DHCP number and adjusted the clock.  BTW, I see a MAC like 00:00:00:00:02:18; is that normal?

The microUSB connection to the dock is not very stable when moving the phone.  Anyway, if I disconnect and reconnect it I see a message saying «Connection "Wired connection 1" activated», and, about a minute late, «Connection "Wired connection 1" deactivated.  From the PC, if I try to ping or arping by MAC, I get Host Unreachable and Timeout, respectively.  Even if I do that in the interval during which the connection.  From the phone, I'm unable to reach out.

BTW, when I issued netstat on the phone terminal, I got "bash: netstat: command not found".  Is that normal?

On my desk I have no room for another screen and keyboard to connect to the phone.  My aim is to run ssh from the PC so as to be able to configure the phone using a real keyboard anyway.  Is it possible to do it using the stock Manjaro system?

TIA for any hint
Ale


  HELP PLEASE cant update PPP says packagekit crashed and also says database is locked
Posted by: Jdoe - 03-18-2022, 08:04 PM - Forum: General Discussion of PinePhone Pro - Replies (4)

My PPP i just got today and it failed to update it says "offline update failed" and the reason was my packagekit has crashed. i tried to reset and it had some message saying locker is broken and somthing about my database is locked and unable to be unlocked and logging into a virtual enviroment and doing a certain command butr  the message didnt fit on the screen entirly. can someone help me please. thanks


  PinePhone Pro Jumpdrive
Posted by: pvxf2647 - 03-18-2022, 05:34 PM - Forum: PinePhone Pro Software - Replies (3)

The following jumpdrive isn't compatible with the PinePhone Pro.  Is there a jumpdrive that is?
https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Ju...e/releases


  KB: Phone not/barely charging from power supplies when keyboard is not full
Posted by: Phalio - 03-18-2022, 05:19 PM - Forum: PinePhone Accessories - Replies (12)

I really love the keyboard case so far, now my Pinephone truly is the perfect pocket-sized computer! This is what “phones” should be like! The only inconvenience I’m trying to solve right now is the charging priority/behaviour with a power supply plugged in. (Just so you know: The phone’s USB port is covered up, the current limit of keyboard battery -> phone is set, the userspace driver is installed.)

Previously, I only owned a 5V 1A power supply. It charged the KB+PP fine (apparently at around 1.2A) and didn’t get too hot. The problem/inconvenience is that the priority of the keyboard charging chip seems to be keyboard battery > phone > phone battery. This means that the phone doesn’t receive any power from the power supply while the keyboard is charging, and only receives power once the keyboard is (almost) full, resulting in the phone battery percentage continuing to drop for the multiple hours it took my 1A supply to charge the keyboard battery. Since a 5V 3A PD supply is recommended, I thought that those might be enough to charge both batteries at the same time, which I believe the charging chip is supposed to be able to do.

To test this theory, which is mine, I asked around for 5V 3A supplies and C-C cables I could borrow. Apparently these are not common at all, at least among the people I know in real life. Two 5V 3A supplies I tested indeed resulted in both batteries charging and the phone’s percentage going up. According to /sys readings, the keyboard battery was getting 2.3A, the phone battery 0.8A and I assume the phone parts an additional 0.2A, which seems to be what it uses with the screen off and low workloads. However, shortly after plugging in one of these chargers, the keyboard charging chip started continuously shutting itself off and on again about once per second, as if I were spamming the side button. Since the current values seem to add up to more than 3A, I assumed that these power supplies were supplying too much power and the charging chip was shutting itself off as a safety measure. I noticed that neither of the supplies mentioned PD anywhere on them, which I guess means that PD is mandatory.

So I got this power supply and this C-C cable, which seem to charge the keyboard battery at around 2.4A, so twice as fast as the old supply which is great and also halves the time until the phone finally gets to receive power, but the phone still doesn’t get any power when the keyboard battery is not full yet. A last series of tests I made involved combinations of my new supply and cable with a USB C charging port in a car (that seems to support PD as it worked fine) and its C-C cable. These tests apparently showed that both power supplies have the same behaviour, but the cables differ. My cable charged with only 2.4A in the car as well, but the other person’s cable, in either supply, supplied the keyboard battery with 2.4A and additionally the phone battery with 0.4A, plus assumingly 0.2A for the phone itself (is there a way to read that value if it exists as I assume?). Which adds up to exactly 3A. I guess that means my cable for some reason only passes through 2.4A, even though it supposedly supports up to 60W (what cable would I have to get that works as intended?).

So 5V 3A PD supplies seem to work in general, but the keyboard still eats up 2.4A first with its highest priority, only leaving the phone with 0.6A. Which is enough to keep the battery percentage constant with the screen on at low loads, so that would at least mostly prevent the phone battery from completely discharging before it has reached its turn, as was the case previously. But of course it would be best if I could somehow influence how much the phone gets. The userspace driver seems to only allow toggling power supply input as a whole and keyboard battery -> phone charging, which is very useful but doesn’t help with this inconvenience. I also found /sys/class/power_supply/ip5xxx-charger/constant_charge_current (and _max) which is set to 2300000 (and 3100000). Would changing this value, say to 2000000 or 1800000, reduce the amount of power the keyboard battery takes and therefore pass through more to the phone? Or is there anything else I could do?

And as I said: This is only a minor inconvenience, especially with proper 5V 3A input (if I’m able to get a cable that works). I can live with it being like this. That’s a very small price to pay for this incredible device. Thanks to everyone involved, especially to Megi! But it would be nice to know if there is a way.

And sorry for this being so long, I tend to ramble on a lot. Maybe I shouldn’t have included so many details from my findings.
TLDR: Is there a way to change how much power the phone gets from a power supply while the keyboard battery is also charging and not full yet?


  PP v1.2 VCONN question
Posted by: m4xx3d0ut - 03-18-2022, 12:26 PM - Forum: PinePhone Hardware - No Replies

Hi everyone!  

I have a PP v1.2, it was a UBports edition but I run Mobian as my main, which is kept fully updated, and a custom minimal Linux that I've been messing with that I boot into from p-boot (Thanks Megi!).  I also have the keyboard case on the device all of the time.  I've read the wiki section about VCONN on the 1.2 board and several posts/videos on how to perform the hardware fix, but I'm not sure this would help with the issue I'm seeing.  I'm able to use things like keyboard and mouse over USB OTG, but it won't detect anything like USB Thumb drives, Ethernet adapters, hubs, etc.  Does the VCONN issue affect that type of device operation or does sink just manage the charging voltages?

Thank you in advance for any help!