closing apps rather than leaving them running (phosh)

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Are we, the people who paid for these phones, the community that is supposed to fix these issues?

Yes, that is exactly the case.

Pine64 doesn't make Phosh (it was made by Purism, the company that makes Librem phones and computers), they don't make any of the distros (all community efforts). They don't make any of the software. They provide that hardware, and that's pretty much it.

Thanks arcanemachine, i kind of get it. But to be honest, I have never seen a program where someone just builds hardware and hopes for the best. I would expect at least the group that is building and selling the hardware to provide some structure that tracks bugs in the software, that recognizes some of the problems and mitigates what they triage to be the worst ones. Otherwise success will be distant, because it will take effort to develop a critical mass of people who are guiding customers with clarity.  Some examples. Starting with a new phone, I could not see anything because the screen turned the brightness down.  I had to ssh into the device and try and figure out how to fix it. There was no data, except for an individual providing a canned profile on how to do so and I think that it was an update of the SW that helped.  But even now, Phosh, Plasma and Mobian only provide a brightness slider when you first install the OS(at least that's what I have found), after that I can't find it. (probably my mistake).  But I am not a complete novice (although I am incompetent).I have been mistaken about some of the versions of the OS's and their UI. Phosh for example minimizes applications but there is no indication of how you turn them off.  Answer: swipe from the bottom when they are minimized -  but why is there no documentation to explain this very simple action?   If we had a list of OS's, applications and functions, and how they behave -  for example a git repo, focused on issues associated with the  various OS's and their foibles, that would be helpful and would speed up the exploration and improvement of these OS's. Having worked on everything from creating materials that go into chips, processes that make them, systems that are built out of them and applications that run on them, I find this separation of HW and SW to be rather eerie.  I clearly don't understand the business model. Making money from HW is very difficult since the process is very capital intensive, especially now, so how is this Hong Kong based manufacturing  operation sustaining itself without connecting to SW ? I'm rather interested in this business model.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine64 provides some history.  Well, that's my 10 cents worth.