(10-09-2016, 12:56 PM)Traveler Wrote: (10-06-2016, 02:50 AM)mbt28 Wrote: Hi,
Actually I couldnt get what do you mean exactly? What is this 12V line? Is it a bidirectional 12V level serial line? If it is, it is quite easy to implement is with couple of diodes or small ICs.
Wow had to figure out why the quote function didn't work like other forums.
No it is not a bi-directional serial line. It is a logic line that is at a 12 volt level but due to being an automotive application you have to becareful of voltage spikes well above 20 volts.
I have located some I2C boards with either N Channel Mosfet outputs to drive the existing 12 volt relays. Also found some I2C shield with opto-isolated inputs rated 3-30 volts that I can use to wire the existing switches to.
Here are the Output boards I found.
https://www.ereshop.com/shop/index.php?m...729df3a46c
These are the input boards.
https://www.ereshop.com/shop/index.php?m...729df3a46c
I have to do some dimension checking to make sure the output boards will fit into the waterproof relay box and the input boards will fit in behind the mounted switches.
Hi,
Actually, I think it is ignition line sometimes called 12V ACC. Maybe you can just place current limiting resistor and connect it to optoisolator or to a transistor. This way you can bay pass the direct connection to that line.
In anyway we have to find a way to keep high one pin from boot to have safe boot&power management.
01-10-2017, 02:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2017, 03:20 PM by npull.)
So I've had the pine64 with lcd touch screen + wifi/bt on the shelf since the autumn, but been a bit busy so haven't really had the time to look into it until now. Unboxed it yesterday and tried some different android builds. The 6.0 and 7.0 android build just didn't work so well, 7.0 was really sluggish and both of them often refused to boot for some reason. So eventually I went for pine64's lollipop build and it seem to work fine.
I manage to connect an external USB GPS module ( http://www.globalsat.com.tw/en/2-909-307...99954.html) and it seems to work together with "You Are Here GPS" app running in the background. There is an article about it ( http://mapsnmaps.blogspot.fi/2014/02/usi...droid.html). I haven't moved around with the pine64 yet so I can't tell how accurate it is yet (need to get the battery to work first)
And about the battery, I stripped my old nexus 7 of its battery and connected it with the pine64 with a 3-pin JST connector ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-2-0mm-PH-3...281cdfaf94). The cables on the connector did not quite match the pine64 as the black cable comes down on positive and red on negative, but it was just to connect them opposite on the battery. I did not connect the temp cable as I didn't know it was compatible with the nexus7 battery. But it doesn't quite work it seems... The pine64 recognize there is a battery connected, but it doesn't seem to charge, I left it on over the night, but the battery is still at 3%. I manage to boot the device without external power, but it died after 5min or so, and still doesn't seem to take any large amount of charge. I wonder if little board on the nexus battery is preventing it somehow since I the other two connectors are just hanging as dummies now. I have to dig deeper in it.
EDIT: From this thread ( http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=2938) they indicate that you most use the temp wire in order to make it charge, so I wonder if the nexus temp wire (yellow?) would be compatible, is there a risk just trying it out or can this be researched anything?
I also tried to connect a Behringer DAC to the Pine64, but it seems this build doesn't support external DAC to replace the sound handling. Which is a bit sad since lollipop is suppose to support USB DAC. I never got to try it on android 6.0 or 7.0 yet.
Thats what I have to report so far...
(01-10-2017, 02:18 PM)npull Wrote: So I've had the pine64 with lcd touch screen + wifi/bt on the shelf since the autumn, but been a bit busy so haven't really had the time to look into it until now. Unboxed it yesterday and tried some different android builds. The 6.0 and 7.0 android build just didn't work so well, 7.0 was really sluggish and both of them often refused to boot for some reason. So eventually I went for pine64's lollipop build and it seem to work fine.
I manage to connect an external USB GPS module (http://www.globalsat.com.tw/en/2-909-307...99954.html) and it seems to work together with "You Are Here GPS" app running in the background. There is an article about it (http://mapsnmaps.blogspot.fi/2014/02/usi...droid.html). I haven't moved around with the pine64 yet so I can't tell how accurate it is yet (need to get the battery to work first)
And about the battery, I stripped my old nexus 7 of its battery and connected it with the pine64 with a 3-pin JST connector (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-2-0mm-PH-3...281cdfaf94). The cables on the connector did not quite match the pine64 as the black cable comes down on positive and red on negative, but it was just to connect them opposite on the battery. I did not connect the temp cable as I didn't know it was compatible with the nexus7 battery. But it doesn't quite work it seems... The pine64 recognize there is a battery connected, but it doesn't seem to charge, I left it on over the night, but the battery is still at 3%. I manage to boot the device without external power, but it died after 5min or so, and still doesn't seem to take any large amount of charge. I wonder if little board on the nexus battery is preventing it somehow since I the other two connectors are just hanging as dummies now. I have to dig deeper in it.
EDIT: From this thread (http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=2938) they indicate that you most use the temp wire in order to make it charge, so I wonder if the nexus temp wire (yellow?) would be compatible, is there a risk just trying it out or can this be researched anything?
I also tried to connect a Behringer DAC to the Pine64, but it seems this build doesn't support external DAC to replace the sound handling. Which is a bit sad since lollipop is suppose to support USB DAC. I never got to try it on android 6.0 or 7.0 yet.
Thats what I have to report so far...
Please place a pull down 10K resistor or thermistor on the Vbat middle pin, this allows Pine A64 start charging the Lithium battery. The middle pin is the sensor to prevent Lithium overhear.
No idea of the two middle pins usage for teh Nexus 7 battery
(01-10-2017, 08:50 PM)tllim Wrote: (01-10-2017, 02:18 PM)npull Wrote: So I've had the pine64 with lcd touch screen + wifi/bt on the shelf since the autumn, but been a bit busy so haven't really had the time to look into it until now. Unboxed it yesterday and tried some different android builds. The 6.0 and 7.0 android build just didn't work so well, 7.0 was really sluggish and both of them often refused to boot for some reason. So eventually I went for pine64's lollipop build and it seem to work fine.
I manage to connect an external USB GPS module (http://www.globalsat.com.tw/en/2-909-307...99954.html) and it seems to work together with "You Are Here GPS" app running in the background. There is an article about it (http://mapsnmaps.blogspot.fi/2014/02/usi...droid.html). I haven't moved around with the pine64 yet so I can't tell how accurate it is yet (need to get the battery to work first)
And about the battery, I stripped my old nexus 7 of its battery and connected it with the pine64 with a 3-pin JST connector (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-2-0mm-PH-3...281cdfaf94). The cables on the connector did not quite match the pine64 as the black cable comes down on positive and red on negative, but it was just to connect them opposite on the battery. I did not connect the temp cable as I didn't know it was compatible with the nexus7 battery. But it doesn't quite work it seems... The pine64 recognize there is a battery connected, but it doesn't seem to charge, I left it on over the night, but the battery is still at 3%. I manage to boot the device without external power, but it died after 5min or so, and still doesn't seem to take any large amount of charge. I wonder if little board on the nexus battery is preventing it somehow since I the other two connectors are just hanging as dummies now. I have to dig deeper in it.
EDIT: From this thread (http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=2938) they indicate that you most use the temp wire in order to make it charge, so I wonder if the nexus temp wire (yellow?) would be compatible, is there a risk just trying it out or can this be researched anything?
I also tried to connect a Behringer DAC to the Pine64, but it seems this build doesn't support external DAC to replace the sound handling. Which is a bit sad since lollipop is suppose to support USB DAC. I never got to try it on android 6.0 or 7.0 yet.
Thats what I have to report so far...
Please place a pull down 10K resistor or thermistor on the Vbat middle pin, this allows Pine A64 start charging the Lithium battery. The middle pin is the sensor to prevent Lithium overhear.
No idea of the two middle pins usage for teh Nexus 7 battery
What type of resistor would you recommend, and what effect should it house? Does it matter? Do I just bridge this to the ground/negative cable on the battery?
(01-11-2017, 03:03 AM)npull Wrote: (01-10-2017, 08:50 PM)tllim Wrote: (01-10-2017, 02:18 PM)npull Wrote: So I've had the pine64 with lcd touch screen + wifi/bt on the shelf since the autumn, but been a bit busy so haven't really had the time to look into it until now. Unboxed it yesterday and tried some different android builds. The 6.0 and 7.0 android build just didn't work so well, 7.0 was really sluggish and both of them often refused to boot for some reason. So eventually I went for pine64's lollipop build and it seem to work fine.
I manage to connect an external USB GPS module (http://www.globalsat.com.tw/en/2-909-307...99954.html) and it seems to work together with "You Are Here GPS" app running in the background. There is an article about it (http://mapsnmaps.blogspot.fi/2014/02/usi...droid.html). I haven't moved around with the pine64 yet so I can't tell how accurate it is yet (need to get the battery to work first)
And about the battery, I stripped my old nexus 7 of its battery and connected it with the pine64 with a 3-pin JST connector (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-2-0mm-PH-3...281cdfaf94). The cables on the connector did not quite match the pine64 as the black cable comes down on positive and red on negative, but it was just to connect them opposite on the battery. I did not connect the temp cable as I didn't know it was compatible with the nexus7 battery. But it doesn't quite work it seems... The pine64 recognize there is a battery connected, but it doesn't seem to charge, I left it on over the night, but the battery is still at 3%. I manage to boot the device without external power, but it died after 5min or so, and still doesn't seem to take any large amount of charge. I wonder if little board on the nexus battery is preventing it somehow since I the other two connectors are just hanging as dummies now. I have to dig deeper in it.
EDIT: From this thread (http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=2938) they indicate that you most use the temp wire in order to make it charge, so I wonder if the nexus temp wire (yellow?) would be compatible, is there a risk just trying it out or can this be researched anything?
I also tried to connect a Behringer DAC to the Pine64, but it seems this build doesn't support external DAC to replace the sound handling. Which is a bit sad since lollipop is suppose to support USB DAC. I never got to try it on android 6.0 or 7.0 yet.
Thats what I have to report so far...
Please place a pull down 10K resistor or thermistor on the Vbat middle pin, this allows Pine A64 start charging the Lithium battery. The middle pin is the sensor to prevent Lithium overhear.
No idea of the two middle pins usage for teh Nexus 7 battery
What type of resistor would you recommend, and what effect should it house? Does it matter? Do I just bridge this to the ground/negative cable on the battery?
Just normal 1/8w or 1/4w 5% 10K ohm resistor that commonly available, connect to the connector ground signal, NOT battery negative terminal.
Hi,
If anyone interested in I am trying to build Automotive Grade Linux for Pine64:
http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3168
02-20-2017, 06:48 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-20-2017, 06:49 AM by Math43.)
Hi,
I'm trying to build a car audio with my pine64. At home all is working fine on 220v power supply.
In my car i'm using a Auley Car Charger ( https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charger-Cha...ar+charger) and Pine64 is unable to work fine, there is many random reboot.
The only different thing between home and car is the power supply... i've try another car charger but problem is the same...
Do you have any idea ?
Thank you !
Any update on this project?
I'd like to use my Pine64 board as an in-car tablet that could run nav software and play Audible audiobooks and whatnot but shortly after I received it I realized it had no GPS capability so I thought I might be out-of-luck for navigation. But it seems some smart people have gotten the GPS aspect figured out.
As far as powering on the Pine board, and keeping it powered, I can't make sense of what you guys are talking about. I'm a software developer but am totally ignorant of even basic electronics. I'd actually be content having to power on the Pine unit myself after starting the car or plugging it in. I perform that sort of action now with my cell phone (put it in the holder on my dash and plug the AUX cable into it from my stereo input) anyway so it wouldn't bother me.
You can plug it in just like your phone just make sure it is at least a 2.5 amp adapter you are using. If it is enough to charge an Apple it should work. Adafruit has a GPS module that will work.
02-27-2017, 03:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-27-2017, 03:51 PM by dkryder.)
i'd suggest getting an inline volt/amp tester, something like this,
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltmeter-Mu...B018X8SX4A
drok also makes one inline to usb also. anyway, you want a continuous [and CLEAN] 2.5amp [@ least] from the power.
i'd guess the car chargers can not do that, but get something inline and watch what current is at time of reboots. crazy things like
alternators turning on/off can distort and/or dampen the power that goes to accessory lines. which, if you can get power direct from battery
would be the best option but you need to add the filters/ground loops/etc like in a stereo system to get the best power to the pine64.
edit: btw, i'm not suggesting to hook pine64 directly to battery, you would need to add regulator to drop to 5v.
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