06-15-2020, 09:59 AM
(06-15-2020, 03:26 AM)zxorg Wrote: You must be delusional. Just saying that the RK3399 can be compared to Kirin 990 or Snapdragon 865 demonstrates that you have no clue about hardware evolution. The are MASSIVE differences between newest ARM processors and the one on the PineBook Pro.
I don't think anyone made the claim that the Rock chips are comparable to the 990/865/A13/etc. However, one of the focuses of Pine is that the hardware is reasonably open and well documented - which I don't believe can be said of most of the flagship ARM processors. At least, I certainly can't find much information on them beyond the usual spec sheets. If you want an ARM laptop with undocumented hardware, there are plenty of options.
Quote:Justifying the bad performance because it's open hardware only keeps perpetuating the concept that Free Software has 0 development costs and that they use it because they can't do better.
I'd justify the performance more on the fact that it's $200 than the fact that it's open, though if you know of a radically higher performing open ARM chip, feel free to build a company around boards for it. Pine is built around the Rock chips, and that sort of thing tends to persist through a company's history. Changing architectures/SoCs/etc is far from simple.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do with your hardware, but I'm perfectly happy with the PBP performance. Then again, I've deliberately tried to turn away from modern, top of the line, broken, proprietary hardware, and reduce my demands to what far simpler, less complex systems can deliver.
Quote:Make a goddamn top of the line Macbook Air killer. It's not admissible that the PineBook Pro is considerably bigger than the Dell XPS 13. Leave the 17" gaming notebooks for later.
Might I suggest that what you're looking for doesn't appear to be, at all, what Pine is interested in producing? The world has plenty of good $1000, $2000 laptops. It lacks many good $200 laptop options with open, well documented hardware. The Intel netbooks aren't particularly compelling at the price point.
