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  Slow on Manjaro Arm i3
Posted by: HaxNet - 06-29-2020, 12:09 PM - Forum: Linux on Pinebook Pro - Replies (3)

Hey guys - I feel like the laptop is super slow even if it is just opening a browser. CPU spikes up to 85%-95% just to load. I can't imagine 4GB ram and 5GB of swap is still that slow even at the beginning of starting up the laptop.

Anyone is having problem with this or is it just Manjaro i3 that is causing it?


  Save your sanity: If you buy a PBP, buy a serial adapter and USB to eMMC adapter.
Posted by: Syonyk - 06-29-2020, 11:13 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (11)

It's about $15.

One thing I'm seeing, fairly consistently, is problems on the forum that are borderline impossible to troubleshoot without serial output.

Due to how the PBP brings up the display, it has to get quite far into the boot process before you'll see anything beyond the status LED.  Troubleshooting "LED comes on, nothing else happens" without the serial output is both challenging and frustrating.

With the serial output from the various stages of boot firmware and potentially early kernel, troubleshooting becomes very straightforward, because all the stages are fairly verbose and tell you what's wrong if they can't proceed.

Also, given the boot ROM's rather odd preference to pull firmware from the eMMC before searching the SD card, a corrupt eMMC will easily prevent the system from booting, and it's quite annoying to correct.

With a UART and the USB eMMC adapter, both of these problem classes become radically easier to troubleshoot and fix.

So buy (or build) the proper adapters.  Please.  It's still very much beta, rough around the edges hardware in early boot, and it would be really nice to be able to be more helpful.


  Computer doesn't see PinePhone running UT when plugged into computer
Posted by: ragreenburg - 06-29-2020, 09:44 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (2)

I am trying to put some music/podcasts on my PinePhone running Ubuntu Touch and noticed that when I plug my PinePhone into my laptop using the cord sent with the phone, the phone starts charging but I can't see the phone in the file manager and running "fdisk -l" I also don't see the phone. Anyone else having a similar issue or know a workaround? I am running Linux Mint on my computer for what it's worth.


  RK3399 - big.LITTLE core choice optimization
Posted by: lucserre - 06-29-2020, 08:13 AM - Forum: Pinebook Pro Hardware and Accessories - Replies (3)

The A72 and A53 core are each (according to Rockchip) optimized for, respectively, high-performance and low power.
How does our system (linux kernel maybe?) choose which processes to put into which core?

For example, if I'm running a single thread process that occupies 100% of one single core, I would like the system to choose the high-performance core in order to complete the task faster, rather than choosing the low power core to save power.

Do we (end users) have any control over this? Should we?


  Mobian upgrade path
Posted by: patrickjquinn - 06-29-2020, 05:28 AM - Forum: Mobian on PinePhone - Replies (7)

Hey group,

Switched my CE over to Mobian and i'm quite impressed by Phosh and by the Mobian underpinnings so well done. 

Quick question, if I install the nightly and run an apt upgrade, will this pull down the latest changes upstream from the mobian project? Or will it just upgrade the base Bullseye packages? Are there repos set up for Mobian yet is essentially my question.

Thanks!


  On keyboard replacement and Pinebook Pro fragility
Posted by: jpalus - 06-29-2020, 04:52 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (5)

My ANSI keyboard arrived recently (to replace ISO one) along with NVME controller and I thought I would share my experience after mostly gentle disassembly and reassembly. Let's start with effect right after assembly:

1. Both screw standoffs were broken (I guess that's what was making noises since receiving PBP)
2. New keyboard basically did not work -- more than a half of keys did not result in any code, the rest was acting funny ie: key '1' resulted in '1', key '2' resulted in nothing, key '3' resulted in '2', key '4' resulted in nothing, key '5' resulted in '3' etc
3. Daughter board is dead
4. Possibly related to 3. USB2 devices do not work when plugged into USB3 port (forget about external keyboard, mouse or YubiKey). USB3 devices work perfectly fine though.
5. Touchpad did not work

About keyboard:

I was struggling between two options, whether to raise complaint to support or try new firmware. I realized I did not know where keyboard firmware is actually located -- if it's on the main board then it's wrong since it was for ISO keyboard. If firmware is directly on the keyboard then newly arrived keyboard was completely broken. Fortunately installing new firmware helped (after few attempts out of which few ended up in errors). Note that installing firmware is extremely complex if 1) you cannot attach external keyboard (no USB2 devices),  2) your WiFi connects after logging in (no SSH) 3) you cannot login since you don't have any working keyboard.

About daughter board:

that was the only "non-gentle" operation. The cable going into daughter board would not come off no matter what. I used a little force and it turned out the port on daughter port was somewhat broken -- smashed pins on one side. Might be the reason why USB devices worked like 50% of the time in USB2 port. Anyway lesson learnt: if you don't have to unplug something -- don't. Chances of breaking something are too high.

Now not really sure if USB2 devices not working in USB3 port is in any way related to daughter board -- that would be peculiar. Perhaps it's just some shortcoming of device tree file which assumes USB2 availability only if port on daughter board is available? Can someone from Pine sched some light? Unfortunately my usage patterns are way too reliant on YubiKey (PGP, SSH, CR) which identifies as USB2 device. If it is related I'm looking forward to replacements parts availability.

About touchpad:

After replugging a hundred times I did inspect cable joining board and touchpad and turned out one of pins was skewed. After "straightening" it touchpad worked again.


As for good news NVME adapter worked fine from the start with WD Blue SN550.

One thing is for sure: if I every open up PBP again, that would be just for replacing daughter board. Everything inside is just way too fragile.


  powerup upon plug event
Posted by: robt - 06-29-2020, 03:45 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (5)

I noticed my PBP was very warm after having put it to sleep then plugging in the power (this happens with the plug as well as with usb-c charging), and noticed that after more than half a day charging, it wasn't fully charged.

Then I tested, and found that it will turn on when I plug or unplug the power.
Is there any way to change this behaviour?
Or are there good reasons for it? (In case the keyboard malfunctions, it would be a way to turn on the device and then a usb keyboard could help out... just making wild assumptions why this behaviour might be designed in...)

For now I have configured Manjaro KDE to shut down after several minutes of idling even when running on mains power (I only had that setting when on battery power), have yet to test the setting.

The reason I have issues is that I have a generic 4 port usb charger device with a power switch on the mains cable, and it's not all that uncommon that it gets switched.
This conflicts with me assuming that after several hours, my PBP will be fully charged...


  [Solved] SD Card strange boot behaviour
Posted by: benderni - 06-29-2020, 02:55 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (4)

I have a pinebook pro running the Manjaro KDE default install everything is working fine. I'm very pleased with the device. I had ordered an additional eMMC of 128GB to replace the 64GB eMMC with. So I installed an other OS, Manjaro I3 SD card image, on a micro SD card I owned (samsung micro sd hc card of 32 GB read and write speeds not known..) and I am experiencing some weird boot issues.

Here are the scenario's:
- If I shutdown the pinebook pro insert the SD Card and power it on, I get the orange light, turning green, but the device won't boot from the SD-card.
- If I boot from the eMMC, insert the SD Card, mount the boot partition of the SD-card and restart the device, it boots without any issues from the SD-card.

Now if I want to replace the eMMC with the 128GB one I am not able to boot from the SD-card as it won't boot from a 'cold' start.

Might this be an issue with the SD-card being to slow? or is this some other problem? I've done the above two scenario's many times over and over again and it always succeeds when first booting up from eMMC, inserting the SD Card, mounting the boot partition of the SD-card and reboot.


  Panfrost Changelog
Posted by: icecream95 - 06-29-2020, 01:29 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (40)

In this thread I will be posting a short changelog of the Panfrost changes in Mesa when they arrive in Manjaro stable mesa-git.

This changelog will be useful even if you don't use Manjaro, but it may be out of sync to when you get the changes - Manjaro is between one and three weeks behind upstream mesa git.




New contributors to Panfrost are always welcome - in the past three months there were only four contributors with more than one commit to Panfrost in Mesa, and more will help us get to OpenGL 3 and beyond faster (Vulkan might not be that far off thanks to the Gallium frontend being written).

Most discussion around Panfrost happens on the #panfrost channel on Freenode IRC, so ask there if you want to get involved. Only minimum knowledge of the OpenGL rendering pipeline is required.






mesa-git-20.2.0_devel.125242.82815bc9803-1:

Changes from dd81f4853c8 to 82815bc9803:

Features:

- ARB_depth_clamp support (used for shadows in OpenMW, and in LZDoom) (!5453)

Fixes:

- EXT_frag_depth and AMD_shader_stencil_export now work (!5065)
- Waypipe now works for applications using GL (!5410)

Performance:

- Kodi memory usage when software decoding video has been reduced (!4451)
- Performance improvements for some software-rendered applications and video players (!4628)
- Bandwidth savings for varyings (!5423)
- Some blend modes are now faster (!5449)
- Multiplying by two is sometimes faster (!5475)


  Tutorial for new UBPorts CE users / list of known issues?
Posted by: ThatGeoGuy - 06-28-2020, 01:59 PM - Forum: UBPorts on PinePhone - Replies (2)

Hi! Brand new UBPorts CE user here (as of a couple days ago).

I've been browsing through the wiki / forum and found myself wondering what the best place is to receive updates regarding the state of UBPorts on the PinePhone right now. Some of the basic things I've done right off the bat:

  1. Switched from "stable" to "development" under Settings > Updates. This got me on the latest OTA, with more updates to come.
  2. Got GPS / Location services working for uNav, Clock, etc. Thread here
I'm still finding quite a number of basic things still aren't working, and I'm unsure if it's because I haven't toggled them on, or if they're still meant to be broken as the UBPorts devs continue to work. Notably:
  • Camera app is always blank / shows a black screen. I assume camera support is nothing right now?
  • Encryption: Is there a way to enable disk encryption for the phone and/or any mounted microSD cards? Is it enabled by default and I can't tell?
  • For that matter, is there a tutorial or any pointers for utilizing a microSD card with UBPorts? I assume I need to format it and set the filesystem myself, but that somewhat relates to the above question regarding encryption since I'd have to have LUKS set up before I figure out the filesystem. And how would one tell apps to use that SD card for storage instead of the eMMC flash?
  • Touch-responsiveness is fairly low, although I have noticed improvements after changing to the development channel. Can we expect more fluid touch response or is Unity8 capping this out?
  • Headphones don't seem to be detected? I've been having similar issues with my Pinebook Pro, but I'm not sure if the two are related to some upstream kernel thing or not.
  • Is there a list of features UBPorts devs are currently working on, or a changelog of what is coming out with each release? I'm noticing on the Development channel there's typically an update once a day, which is a pretty solid pace, but it is very sparse on details.
  • What's the best way to get started writing apps for UBPorts / Pinephone in general? I know something like libhandy exists, but I was wondering if there's anything in particular that makes development easier? SSHing in to deploy / install should be workable, but I'm not sure I understand how apps are sandboxed (if they are at all) or how once could develop on say stock Debian or Manjaro on a Pinebook Pro and deploy to UBPorts with the least amount of overhead.
Mostly I'm just looking to figure out the general state of the ecosystem and figure out where I should be looking for more information.