Hi,

I'm interested to develop software for pinephone. I dont know much about the phone.

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but is there a thread/forum/wiki for developing, not the OS itself, but apps.

I read that pinephone can run Qt5 is this true? Is this the Ubuntu version?

Is it possible, for example, to compile on a desktop pine edition (or otherwise), then copy onto the phone. Ideally, a Qt5 binary.

Thanks for any help to get me started!

I got the RockPro64 yesterday and finally got it up and running with Debian Bullseye. I just thought I'd let people know that it works reasonably well with an HP 560 SFP+ 10Gb NIC using the ixgbe driver. It's limited to 8Gb due to the PCIe bus being 4x but 8Gb is good enough for my needs. 

Just thought I'd confirm that this NIC does indeed work with the RockPro64.

Mod edit: Amended title to reflect that it's in relation to a 10GB NIC

I have been trying to determine what sim cards and carriers will work on the current Pine phone OS releases,

I have tried multiple sim card 'kits' from TracFone and Net 10,  they come with   AT&T,  T-Mobile, and Verizon carrier sim cards.

Verizon sim cards always show "NO SIM CARD"  from both TracFone and Net 10  'sim card kits'   ?

The T-Mobile sim cards take a while "searching"  when looking in the settings >  'Modem'  but they do eventually show a carrier, signal and network type.
  I did activate an account with 'Simple Mobile' (T-Mobile NVMO) that works, but T-Mobile is weak in many of the areas I am in.
    I picked Simple Mobile over TracFone as they offer more service for the same price,   for T-Mobile carrier service.

The TracFone, Net 10/AT&T sim cards do show a sim card but they do not (for me) show a carrier, signal or network type, even waiting over an hour.
   But,  I do have a PMOS Pine phone on an activated TracFone/AT&T account that is working 'ok'.
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> I also tested an un-activated  AT&T sim card that was direct, not through an NVMO and it shows a strong signal, carrier, and network type pretty quickly. 

My 'daily driver' Brave Heart phone is running 'very well' on an official  "AT&T Prepaid account"...
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Note:  I am semi-rural, so my results may not be typical.

I hope to hear some others mention their experiences with getting Verizon to work..?  NVMO's ?  ?
    ( I personally dislike Verizon, but there are some places,  that is the only carrier )
  ( When Verizon came to Tucson, Arizona, (1980's)  they bought all the existing communication services, and shut them down ) 

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While the hardware and software are important to any smart phone,  actually connecting to a carrier is also kind of vital....

* Deals can be had with carriers, but they do prioritize,  The top of the list are the full price consumers on post pay,
  then their direct PrePay customers, at the bottom of the list,  is the discount NVMO customers
   "Check-out Pure Talk NVMO" for some great deals !

So a couple of days ago my pinephone stopped booting into the OS after the Pine64 Logo. Today I tried this fix https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=10130 and at first it seemed like it was working, booting into recovery started the installing update screen but about half way through the update my phone crashed and booting into recovery just shows the "awaiting command" screen. I obviously tried to power through with the rest of the fix but after the reboot command the phone still fails to boot.

Is my UBPorts image fucked or is there still a way to recover? If not does anyone have a good guide on how to reflash UBPorts on the Pinephone.

Greeting and Thanks
Defekto

Be aware, these tests are being executed using an out-of-box testing methodology. All tests are preformed with minimal interaction/setup of devices outside of: OS imaging/updating,  SIM installation, Wifi Configuration,  and Power Cycling the devices.

Results: ubports/2020-09-29-TMobile

Conclusion: This OS is not ready for the device to become a daily driver.

Notes:Still open to the idea that the camera button is to reverse the image not switch to the 'selfie camera' if anyone can confirm either way I would appreciate it. Failed 4G outbound call still an issue. 3G outbound texting is still broken. No audio on outbound calls. Unable to detect Verizon carrier. Interesting set of problems. Seems like there is very little noticeable progress as far as phone feature is concerned at the moment. Phone is running a little hotter than normal. 

Issues:
4G outbound calls broken.
Phone gets stuck in a weird lock state when spamming power button.
Outbound SMS over 3g is broken.
Audio cuts out after "No Calls" error is handled on inbound/outbound calls. - Unable to replicate this one at this time, closed report.
Verizon carrier issues

Other Notes: Although there have been updates outside of the nightly builds, I am close to a point of treating this software as abandon-ware. Lack of response and triage through the teams issue tracker has only made this testing process mildly more frustrating. With that in mind, there are other distros that can support the phone in a much better fashion. I would suggest looking at Manjaro or Mobian. Although both OSes are still alpha.

I have issue with trackpad at PBP. After some hours of work it will suddenly register ghost touches ... and one finger is detected as two ... etc.
Power off and on fixes it for some time.

My X11 trackpad settings:

@tllim said "The PinePhone CE edition mainboard will be released as spare part once the software getting more mature and tested. Probably late Q4 or early 2021".

I have enthusiastically evaporated unreasonable quantities of time with a (possibly hardware related) issue that apparently has no domestic user solution.
Will a suitable replacement motherboard be available for the UBPorts edition phone or do I have to get back in the queue for a new one?

I've finally gotten to s point, I moved a week after my pbp arrived, where I could sit down anfcstart really doing some work.

Lady night just before bed there were half a dozen updates j needed to install, so I figured I'd leave it to update and go to bed.

I had updated to manjaro, but probably not on the emmc, need to get it setup properly once and for all. Bugni yjouhhtnit would do most of the updates and then go to sleep and I'd have to deal with the after effects this morning.

Imagine my surprise when I got up and found the updates done and the pc still waiting. Albeit 5% battery remaining but that anything was left I found amazing.

Great job guys!

Now if I could spend !ors time w my tablet.....

There was some discussion about hot glue guns in the PineTime channel, the consensus seemed to be that it's generally very annoying because the glue guns are very annoying to use. They get too hot, warm up slow, overheat the glue and other various annoyances.

Now the idea is simple, maybe Pine64 could provide a Pinecil but for hot glue. Similar features would be nice - temperature control, motion/inactivity detection, some nice microcontroller with USB-PD/barrel power supply. 

What do you think?

This is just a small idea/suggestion, has there been any consideration of switching the forums to use Discourse?

Being a long-time forum user on a wide variety of forum platforms I've noticed that Discourse seems to generally be quite a bit better than a lot of its competition.

The difference between the platforms is akin to the difference between Phabricator (or god forbid Savannah) compared to GitHub, GitLab or Gitea. It works better across various screen sizes, it has a lot of UX improvements over PHPBB and MyBB. There's abbreviation tooltips, better notification system, nicer moderation tools, people can use markdown and so on and on that make a better whole. There's a lot less ossification and a lot more nice features that really do improve the overall experience. Quite a few large open-source projects have also switched to it.

There's even a migration guide available here. I do think it's doable, would be nice if it were considered.