I really want a pinephone, to use as a daily driver. I don't have extensive needs: right now, they're perfectly met by a 2008 era Nokia phone. The pinephone would then be an upgrade intended to let me perform basic online tasks, such as check email, basic browsing, and similar. It does not bother me if the camera quality is terrible, it does not bother me if the UI isn't fancy (I've already seen Sxmo and it looks right up my alley), and so on. In short, I don't have high standards for what's working, as long as it can serve at least as a dumbphone replacement.

However, I have one big concern, and that is battery life, which leads me to asking these two questions. Firstly, what has been people's experience with battery life on current OS images? Can it go a full day idle? 24hr? I've looked around briefly and found anecdotal evidence ranging from 3hr idle to 20+hr, but it's not always clear whether it's a recent image or whether the user is experiencing an issue etc.

Secondly: could someone with knowledge of the development status give a summary, what is the potential for future battery life improvements on the software side? From skimming the blog posts, it sounds like some significant achievements have been made in power state control, leading to potentially close to 24hr idle. But is that the current ceiling? I've also heard claims (with no supporting evidence) that there's no "proper suspend yet" and that implementing a true deep sleep state would significantly extend battery life; how true is that?
In short, let's say in 1-2 years, could we have maybe 3-4 days idle battery life? Or is that completely out of the window?

I'd be very grateful with any insight into these issues. This really would be the dealbreaker for me; as fantastic and enticing as the project seems, if it can barely last a day and has little prospect of improving that then I'd have to pass. On the other hand, if there's any potential for over a day of charge, I'd happily overlook many, many other rough edges.

Dear All,

There isn't a subforum for general Pinephone software topics, so I hope it's OK to post this here.

I've had my Pinephone for a couple of months now, and I'm enjoying playing with it.  But from a couple of recent chats I've had on Reddit, it seems I'm not alone in being irritated by the poor quality of some of the distro releases for the Pinephone.  Over recent days I've tried:

• Manjaro Plasma.  Used to boot fine.  But now, if I flash it to SD then the phone just boots to whatever is on emmc.  And if I flash to emmc, it doesn't boot at all.
  
• KDE Neon.  Again this used to be OK-ish but now, although it boots OK, when I try to launch an app, the app launches but then the whole system immediately crashes.  Happens every time and for every app.  Other people on Reddit have found the same.
  
• Ubuntu Touch.  Again this used to work pretty well, but now when I try to boot it, it gets as far as the Pine64 logo and just hangs there. 
  

Is there a way to enable caps lock on the virtual keyboard? It's kind of a pain to have to keep going back to the single-instance upper-case key when typing something in all caps.

One of the Pinephone's limitations is there is only support for 2.4GHz wifi. Will a 5GHz USB wifi adapter work through the convergence dock? (Or, more conveniently, directly through the USB-C port with an adapter?)

Hi all!

This is my first post here. Just got a pbp that I bought used on ebay. The former owner had flashed it to the official manjaro kde distro. I was able to login and use it for a few days. Yesterday I was browsing the internet while it charged from a usb power bank (18w supply with a generic usb c cord). Eventually I unplugged the power bank and set the pbp aside. I did not shut it off. This morning it will not boot.  I've read the other "won't boot" threads.

I tried:
flip emmc switch and press reset button
I tried to boot a different manjaro image on an sd (pinebook pro manjaro i3) with and without emmc switch on
different emmc (came with a 128 gb and original 64 gb)
all of these I've tried both with and without the official barrel power adapter plugged in

so any suggestions? any other components I should make sure are seated properly? I do have a usb emmc adapter should I flash the emmc to the stock image over usb? could that power adapter have done something bad?

Thanks for any help!

Just curious what's the difference between PCBA of Pinephone Manjaro edition (1.2a) and KDE edition (1.2b)?  Thanks!

Upd: The price in the online shop will not increase, only the price in the (new) retail stores: https://www.pine64.org/2020/12/02/pine-s...il-stores/

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The online shop shows the following:

Community price: $149.99

(Retail price: $249)


Similarly, for the convergence package:

Community price: $199.99

(Retail price: $299)

I paired my Samsung HM1350 headset to my Pinephone but all I get is static sounds out of it. The Samsung headset works fine with my old flip phone. Are there any bluetooth headsets that are known to work with the Pinephone? (It's the Manjaro convergence edition phone running the latest Mobian.)

I'm finding that with the Mobian "Software" application, any category selected causes the program to abort. If I install a graphical program from the command line with apt or apt-get, will it appear as an app on the Pinephone screen? If not, what would I have to do to create a screen icon for it? (Going in on the command line there are no .desktop files in the Desktop directory as would be seen in a standard-issue Debian system.)