cryptocurrency on mobian/pinephone
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(11-02-2021, 09:43 PM)ryo Wrote:
(11-02-2021, 04:38 PM)Barugon Wrote:
(11-01-2021, 01:19 PM)biketool Wrote: Privacy fans using pinephone need a way to pay without apple/google pay or a credit card.

Do people actually use cryptocurrency as currency or just for trading as a commodity?

As said above, Bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador, and according to expats living there, it's accepted everywhere.
Yes, even at McDonald's where you can get your portion of GMO fake food for some of your Bitcoin.

Ukraine and Brazil have officially announced to make Bitcoin legal tender in their countries as well, and according to rumors a couple of Latin American, Eastern European, and African countries are allegedly (because not officially known yet) planning on doing the same.
Meanwhile, China just banned Bitcoin for the 100th time (without ever unbanning it by the way), EU and the 5 eyes countries have announced to regulate crypto to hell for the 40 billionth time.

So perhaps the answer to your question would be, depends on where you live.

My question was do people actually use it as currency, not if it is legal to do so. Also, being "legal tender" seems counter to the whole idea behind bitcoin.
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(11-03-2021, 11:03 AM)Barugon Wrote: My question was do people actually use it as currency, not if it is legal to do so. Also, being "legal tender" seems counter to the whole idea behind bitcoin.

It technically is related.
Because while the more libertarian/anarchist people would be more likely to use cryptocurrency legal or not, but the entire rest of the world would refuse to even look into it until the government tells them to do so.
I believe that the crypto space these days is more split between Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, and Monero when it comes to using crypto as currency, since Bitcoin is slow and expensive, and on top of that is entirely transparent (the last one is the same for Bitcoin Cash and Litecoin).

If you go on the deep web, nobody accepts Bitcoin anymore because of its transparency.
Everyone wants Monero instead.
But then again, the same people who believe that you can't use crypto until the government tells you it's OK to use it are those who don't even dare to touch the deep web and really believe it's only illegal criminal shit on there anyway.

This is why I had to point out the whole legal aspect to it, since at least 90% of each country wouldn't use Bitcoin or any other crypto in general if it's not considered legal, even though crypto doesn't require to be legal in order to be used.
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(11-04-2021, 01:59 AM)ryo Wrote: (snip)
Because while the more libertarian/anarchist people would be more likely to use cryptocurrency legal or not, but the entire rest of the world would refuse to even look into it until the government tells them to do so.(snip)
I think you are correct, though I have to say that to many English speaking people the word anarchist is informally defined in the press not a set of anti-authoritarian political beliefs but has come to mean people who riot, break stuff, and burn things because they love violence and chaos but hate order.
I think the popularity of crypto is also due to an early introduction to the concept in Cryptonomicon is a 1999 novel by popular sci-fi/speculative fiction author Neal Stephenson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon
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(11-05-2021, 02:12 AM)biketool Wrote: I think you are correct, though I have to say that to many English speaking people the word anarchist is informally defined in the press not a set of anti-authoritarian political beliefs but has come to mean people who riot, break stuff, and burn things because they love violence and chaos but hate order.
I think the popularity of crypto is also due to an early introduction to the concept in Cryptonomicon is a 1999 novel by popular sci-fi/speculative fiction author Neal Stephenson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon

yup...
It's not exclusive to English speaking people though, I can confirm it's the same image among Japanese speaking people, and perhaps most other languages too.
Almost everything they say is the opposite, some things at some degree between 5° and 179°, and occasionally they speak the truth just to add some confusion.

Anarchists are just people who want to be free and just want to live like a human rather than a slave.
Crypto and Linux are definitely among the many tools to make a free society possible, and I do believe we already have everything to replace the Matrix with the free/libre counterparts, most people are being kept away from it exactly through definitions like these (among many other things, starting with education, pharma industry, political systems, economy, occupations, cities etc).
Some day humanity will understand that all the answers to all the mysteries/questions/etc are right within themselves and right in front of themselves, just like how animals and plants do.

Never heard of Cryptonomicon, I'll definitely take a look at it.
I mean, 1984 was supposed to be just a fiction, and look how most of the world is like nowadays.
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