I'm thinking about buying a Pine Phone. I don't have much requirements and most of them seem to be covered.
The last one is the usage of u2f hardware tokens.
Currently I use a Yubikey with NFC and USB. I know that NFC is not possible, but I hope USB is possible.
Anyone had succes with a Yubikey or any other brand?
04-29-2021, 06:32 PM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2021, 06:33 PM by pajux.)
I just tested my YubiKey 5ci in Firefox, in Mobian, and it worked: I was able to login to a website that requires 2FA where I've configured this YubiKey)
(04-29-2021, 06:32 PM)pajux Wrote: I just tested my YubiKey 5ci in Firefox, in Mobian, and it worked: I was able to login to a website that requires 2FA where I've configured this YubiKey)
Thanks for getting back to me. I presume that's the U2F part. Do you also have something working for OTP, as that requires the YubiAuth app or something compatible?
(04-29-2021, 06:32 PM)pajux Wrote: I just tested my YubiKey 5ci in Firefox, in Mobian, and it worked: I was able to login to a website that requires 2FA where I've configured this YubiKey)
Thanks for getting back to me. I presume that's the U2F part. Do you also have something working for OTP, as that requires the YubiAuth app or something compatible?
Yeah it was U2F. I've never really dug into the OTP or GPG functionality of the Yubikey or Purism key, as I never got them working reliably with any app I tried or being cross-platform or usable across devices. But yes if those require apps to work and the apps aren't available for ARM (e.g. non open source apps like, I presume, the Yubikey app), then unless there's an open source replacement that works well on the mobile phone screen size, probably not going to work.
(04-30-2021, 07:37 PM)pajux Wrote: Yeah it was U2F. I've never really dug into the OTP or GPG functionality of the Yubikey or Purism key, as I never got them working reliably with any app I tried or being cross-platform or usable across devices. But yes if those require apps to work and the apps aren't available for ARM (e.g. non open source apps like, I presume, the Yubikey app), then unless there's an open source replacement that works well on the mobile phone screen size, probably not going to work.
Going to look if I can run Mobian on an emulator, to see if I can get it working. When it works, there's only one point of doubt left. The huge size of the PinePhone.
05-01-2021, 06:24 PM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2021, 06:24 PM by pajux.)
(05-01-2021, 01:15 AM)p121458 Wrote: The Yubioath desktop app is actually OSS: https://github.com/Yubico/yubioath-desktop
I just looked into the composition of the app, and it should be doable on ARM. On a first glance al dependencies are available on ARM.
When I looked further I saw this: https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/yubioath-desktop
It's already available for Debian on ARM.
Going to look if I can run Mobian on an emulator, to see if I can get it working. When it works, there's only one point of doubt left. The huge size of the PinePhone.
Learned something new today! I installed yubioath-desktop, and so far on the setup screen it looks like it's drawing itself correctly on the mobile screen, lots of empty space though. It properly detected my Yubikey 5ci as well:
Nice! Looks promising. You made the blocks black right to masquerade? Or are these some artifacts in the app?
Just read a thread on this forum about delamminating screens.....I'm in doubt. But good the sofware part seems to be doable for me.
(05-02-2021, 07:23 AM)p121458 Wrote: Nice! Looks promising. You made the blocks black right to masquerade? Or are these some artifacts in the app?
Just read a thread on this forum about delamminating screens.....I'm in doubt. But good the sofware part seems to be doable for me.
I did not retouch the image in any way, the screenshot is exactly how it looked on my screen, so yes, it's not perfectly fitting the Pinephone/mobile form factor... But it fit way better than I expected, probably owing to the app using QML and modern QT libs.
(05-02-2021, 07:23 AM)p121458 Wrote: Nice! Looks promising. You made the blocks black right to masquerade? Or are these some artifacts in the app?
Just read a thread on this forum about delamminating screens.....I'm in doubt. But good the sofware part seems to be doable for me.
I did not retouch the image in any way, the screenshot is exactly how it looked on my screen, so yes, it's not perfectly fitting the Pinephone/mobile form factor... But it fit way better than I expected, probably owing to the app using QML and modern QT libs.
I tried installing the yubioath-desktop package on my Mobian Pinephone, and I do not have the black blocks in your screenshot.
I am attaching unmodified screenshots, one before I plugged my Yubikey into the hub, one right after, then two showing the options for adding an account (scan v. manual).
If you are planning on running Mobian, note that hub ("dock") supplied with the convergence version of the phone (the $200/3GB RAM/32GB EMMC version) will not supply more than 0.5Amps to the phone. (See this thread.) If this bothered me enough, I would try the Manjaro-KDE OS on a MicroSD.
Also, my screen is fine, though I have only had the phone two months. There are some bugs and glitches, but I am amazed by the Pinephone.
Quote:I tried installing the yubioath-desktop package on my Mobian Pinephone, and I do not have the black blocks in your screenshot.
Might be because I'm on Mobian-unstable
Quote:If you are planning on running Mobian, note that hub ("dock") supplied with the convergence version of the phone (the $200/3GB RAM/32GB EMMC version) will not supply more than 0.5Amps to the phone. (See this thread.) If this bothered me enough, I would try the Manjaro-KDE OS on a MicroSD.
Not true anymore, at least with Linux 5.11 and mobian-unstable, I tested yesterday and got full 1.5A charging while connected to my Nexdock 2.