08-23-2020, 07:46 PM
(08-21-2020, 11:03 PM)moonwalkers Wrote:(08-20-2020, 10:04 AM)pine76 Wrote: Oh ok, thank you for sharing. Debian wiki also states something similar: the sid would be better to use for work instead of testing. The wiki also warns that testing may have security problems due to slowness of the packages being available in testing repositories; that is the reason they recommend pinning. But from what I see pinning requires some trial and error to make those priority numbers (990 to 500) work, which I don't have the time to invest on for now.
I guess based on your encouragement and what I am reading. Completely switching to sid can be a good idea. I will also need to experiment with pbp-tools as I don't see any documentation on it.
I was considering to set up apt pinning but it would be a better idea to switch sid perhaps. One thing I don't like is the frequency of updates with sid, but I guess I can live with it for a while, provided I get a reasonable stability.
If you do not consider yourself a Linux power user - do be ready to learn, a lot, if you switch to full-on Sid. And I would recommend to make sure you have at least one machine that you can always fall back to if your Sid system does end up breaking and you don't know how to fix it.
As to priority numbers - 500 is what the packages from most archives are set to. IIRC 1 is the priority for packages from experimental. Negative priority means package(s) will not be considered at all, priority higher than 1000 means the package will be considered even higher priority than newer versions. If you want to stay on Testing but have some packages updates from Sid then perhaps the simplest approach is to set overall priority to Sid archives at 1 (like the default for Experimental) and then set select packages priority to 500. Alternative option - configure testing as default repo, IIRC that'll assign it priority 900 and will make Testing versions preferred to Sid versions.
(08-20-2020, 03:44 PM)bcnaz Wrote: It would sure be NICE if a forum member that is handy with the software Prep, could prepare a recent version of the
Debian operating system that we can install to the eMMC and "keep the sd card boot priority".
And Place that in the wiki with the other 'Ready to use' Operating systems. ?
I simply have installed Debian on my microSD the same way I did for eMMC, except the one on microSD I keep very basic (no GUI whatsoever) and Stable, while eMMC is where I go hog wild on Sid with Experimental bits.
No, I don't consider myself as a linux power user; I haven't compiled my kernel to optimize my laptop, or considered other things like connecting over ssh or checking out the forensic tools etc.
I prefer to choose an OS that stay out of my way during my workfow; an OS which gives me minimal effort for maintenance so I can concentrate on my own work. I do research and I am self-learning mathematics, my experience with linux is mostly relevant to that area plus some light to medium linux administration. Some of the software that I use, e.g. emacs, latex, have steep learning curves. So, I prefer to learn them instead of learning linux to be a power user.
After crushing my Bullseye system from compiling the kernel, I ended up switching to Fedora again to see if I can go with it. Fedora 32 Workstation rendered unusable for me after the updates; it is very heavy, using gnome tracker agressively, it has services like ABRT that disturbs you often etc. I ended up switching to Sway wm instead of gnome and it seems to be a good decision. I don't prefer wms normally due to similar reasoning of requiring some maintenance time. Sway took me one and a half day to set it up at a usable level, i.e. sway+waybar config. But it is very usable and seems to be an environment where I can concentrate on my own work. So, I am satisfied with it.
That said, I don't consider staying with Fedora and I will switch to Debian. I need to get used to what is available on the pbp-tools repo for that; I need to learn more, e.g. practice compiling my own kernel as I don't see kernel 5.8+ hitting Debian repositories anytime soon.
I am open to learning, I am considering concentrate more on using emacs as my goto program as it has quite a bit of abilities including being an email client and a web browser, emacs can work nicely with sway wm. On the downside emacs does not seem to do well with Sway due to not being a native wayland application to my understanding.
I have another laptop with kubuntu installed. It was debian stable with that one, but it crashed from a kernel update. I ended up installing kubuntu (I don't prefer ubuntu). I also have another micro sd, which could give me an opportunity to play with debian and pbp-tools.