(10-07-2020, 03:22 AM)bingch Wrote: (10-06-2020, 01:35 PM)wibble Wrote: Seems promising. I'd imagine most people are going to need some more pointers to get started though - I certainly do! I guess the process is similar to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_P...it_Install but without the vfat /boot and with u-boot.
Yeah right, I put up some basic steps in the https://gitlab.com/bingch/gentoo-overlay.../README.md
bingch, wibble, Thanks so much for your efforts here! Gentoo was my favorite OS a decade ago but, more recently, I've not had the Internet bandwidth or personal free time to download full Gentoo source code. Now I'm enjoying 3mbit/sec down Internet service which I think is enough. I just need to dedicate the time.
If I may rant a little (Linux politics)...The loss of mtp on Mobian has really irritated me. Given the security realized by maintaining physical possession of my PinePhone hardware and also given that my confidence in PinePhone (an "alpha" level system under intense development offering insufficient security confidence for usage that's truly security-critical anyway), I think I should be able to easily re-enable my preferred method of file transfer on Mobian. Sadly mtp was de-featured and I've spent hours trying to re-enable it to no avail, as has exhoplex, I suspect:
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=12633&pid=88146#pid88146
Instead, I think I'll spend my time bringing up a clean slate of Gentoo now, thanks to your motivating work!
I've been a Linux user since the early Slackware days (and UNIX on minis and mainframes before that). I agree with Linux reviewer dedoimedo's rants:
"I've already talked about this in my Kubuntu review, but here's a recap. Security zealots are doing their best to make computer usage hard if not impossible. Restrictions that possibly make sense in the corporate world are copied blindly into the home environment (SELinux, Samba, etc), and you end up with unusable systems. Which defeats the purpose of these security mechanisms. Security is only good if it does not impede functionality."
Quoted from here:
Ubuntu 18.04 - Samba shares problem fix
and, more generally, here:
The Year of the Linux dissatisfaction
Okay, I've ranted enough (or nearly enough
, but I think my rant is very much on-topic here because Gentoo is the solution to a problem that's been growing in Linux communities (and far more "communities" in all walks of life, really) for a long time. Yes--Gentoo requires significant user investment, but a user can much more easily "own" their Linux system through the investment and their significantly enhanced knowledge and competencies that are most assuredly obtained in doing so.
BTW, I did get samba and ftp working on my MX-Linux server but not name service and it's a pain authenticating or dealing with other hurdles every time I wish to share files (like punching a hole in my MX-Linux firewall each time). Simply keeping Megi's mutiboot installed on an SD card to reboot and run JumpDrive is a much better method for me than dealing with Samba or ftp after Mobian de-featured mtp. Mobian's mtp was literally completely "plug (USB cable) and play (Nemo GUI)"--quick and painless.
