Full desktop Surfing and Absolute Privacy on the pinephone?

[Www]

Full desktop Surfing and Absolute Privacy on the pinephone pro?



Can you browse with a full Internet browser allowing you to backup current session tabs list, boomarks, history and saved pages?



With absolute privacy?

[biketool]

Full desktop Surfing and Absolute Privacy on the pinephone pro?



Can you browse with a full Internet browser allowing you to backup current session tabs list, boomarks, history and saved pages?



With absolute privacy?

The pinephone is the only phone I have ever heard of that can defeat a cellbright machine.
Whatever browser you want from desktop debian can be used as long as the GUI can be made to fit, again I dont think anything made can begin to compare to the rpivacy of a PPp.  I am guessing you want to use torbrowser?

[Www]

Full desktop Surfing and Absolute Privacy on the pinephone pro?



Can you browse with a full Internet browser allowing you to backup current session tabs list, boomarks, history and saved pages?



With absolute privacy?

The pinephone is the only phone I have ever heard of that can defeat a cellbright machine.
Whatever browser you want from desktop debian can be used as long as the GUI can be made to fit, again I dont think anything made can begin to compare to the rpivacy of a PPp.  I am guessing you want to use torbrowser?

The issue is you do and store things on your phone.  Only some practical things need tor.   The problem is getting desktop browser data management functions on a mobile browser, as cramming a desktop browser gui on a mobile is not ideal but a backup option.  The very old fill functional opera with m2 from a decade or so ago, was and likely still is, the gold standard as far as backup, manipulation and searching of browser data and tabs.  It all went lock in simplic bonkers.

It's good to know torbrowser is an option at least.

[biketool]

Full desktop Surfing and Absolute Privacy on the pinephone pro?



Can you browse with a full Internet browser allowing you to backup current session tabs list, boomarks, history and saved pages?



With absolute privacy?

The pinephone is the only phone I have ever heard of that can defeat a cellbright machine.
Whatever browser you want from desktop debian can be used as long as the GUI can be made to fit, again I dont think anything made can begin to compare to the rpivacy of a PPp.  I am guessing you want to use torbrowser?

The issue is you do and store things on your phone.  Only some practical things need tor.   The problem is getting desktop browser data management functions on a mobile browser, as cramming a desktop browser gui on a mobile is not ideal but a backup option.  The very old fill functional opera with m2 from a decade or so ago, was and likely still is, the gold standard as far as backup, manipulation and searching of browser data and tabs.  It all went lock in simplic bonkers.

It's good to know torbrowser is an option at least.

I mostly just tweak firefox and plugins much can be done with about:config if you cant scale the gui enough, I have never needed to though, just use reading glasses for tiny font if needed.

[Dendrocalamus64]

Debian just has a script to download Tor Browser Bundle.
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/tor...r-launcher

TBB is only built on aarch64 for Android and Mac OS.
https://www.torproject.org/download/tor/

So you'd have to use Waydroid or something to run Android apps on the PinePhone, and I don't think it has enough RAM to do that comfortably with a Firefox derivative

For the desktop, holind (Heikki Lindholm, formerly holindho@cs.helsinki.fi) used to do an unofficial tor browser build for arm64.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tor-bro...rts/files/

But it hasn't been updated since 13.0.9 in 2024 February. Tor Browser on x86 is up to 14.5.4. So you won't have a great anonymity set, and the browser will be out of date.

It's a genuine problem. Holind just disappeared, their personal web site is gone too, and nobody picked it up. For over a year, Linux arm64 has been without any up-to-date Tor browser.

[biketool]

Debian just has a script to download Tor Browser Bundle.
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/tor...r-launcher

TBB is only built on aarch64 for Android and Mac OS.
https://www.torproject.org/download/tor/

So you'd have to use Waydroid or something to run Android apps on the PinePhone, and I don't think it has enough RAM to do that comfortably with a Firefox derivative

For the desktop, holind (Heikki Lindholm, formerly holindho@cs.helsinki.fi) used to do an unofficial tor browser build for arm64.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tor-bro...rts/files/

But it hasn't been updated since 13.0.9 in 2024 February.  Tor Browser on x86 is up to 14.5.4.  So you won't have a great anonymity set, and the browser will be out of date.

It's a genuine problem.  Holind just disappeared, their personal web site is gone too, and nobody picked it up.  For over a year, Linux arm64 has been without any up-to-date Tor browser.

yes, is it that torbrowser downloads and runs the win32 or 64 exe in a container?  can always install tor and run it as a regular socks proxy and toggle that in network, not as clean but properly configured should be good enough for nearly all threat profiles with the correct plugins to help with user agent, adblock, and privacy filtering.

[Dendrocalamus64]

There are Linux builds for x86; the script should be installing those.

Web browser fingerprinting is a significant and widely deployed threat these days. Firefox with a couple of add-ons is way behind the curve for fighting that. The Mozilla devs keep adding more easily fingerprintable "functionality" instead of working on cleaning up the mess they've already made.

[Kevin Kofler]

x86 builds are not of much use on the ARM aarch64 PinePhone though. (There are emulators that can make x86 software run, but it will be slooooow…)

[Dendrocalamus64]

No, I meant that the script on Debian, which is only for amd64 and i386, should be installing the x86 Linux builds, not the Windows binaries.