Dumb phone with kill switches?

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"They oppose people" - there are tons of people that vote for republicans. E.g. most of Kansas and a huge chunk of rural Washington state, just off the top of my head. Unless you don't consider them people any longer?
"and democracy" - republicans are not one unified front, and far from everyone in the party likes Trump, even less so what he did during the last elections. There is a substantial list of people that denounced Trump's baseless claims of fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican...aud_claims
"100% of a time" - :facepalm:

In general though, you are the one who made substantial claims, asking me for proof that your claims are not true is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof is on the one who's making the claims, i.e. you. So it's you're the one who's got to provide the proof that conservative movement (or at least just the republican party) have become "totally illegitimate", you're the one who's got to provide the proof that they "oppose people and democracy", and you're the one who's got to provide the proof that they do that "100% of a [sic] time". Until you do - your claims are baseless, they are no more than your personal (and rather uninformed) opinion, just like Trump's claims of voting fraud that lacked any supporting evidence.

And these are very inflammatory claims at that. These types of claims do not serve to find a common ground between the people, these types of claims serve only to start religious and civil wars. Not a lot of people are able to discuss politics without making such unsubstantiated claims, which, BTW, is the reason why discussing politics on these forums is considered against the rules. Besides the fact that politics really has little to nothing to do with the Pine64's products and making those products work for Pine64's customers' projects.

So unless you have a substantial (beyond any reasonable doubts) proof to your claims - let's stop the discussion right here, and speak of politics no more. And if you do - perhaps we should find a different forum for this type of discussion anyway. But either way - until you're ready to provide supporting evidence for your claims, just refrain from making any, especially if they risk alienating people you don't even know you might one day have to deal with.

you sound like person to debate with, maybe some other venue. one message though, maybe those republicans should take party back.