Pinebook Pro & PinePhone shipping progress (2020)

[ReleaseTheGeese]

But you guys need to STOP making toxic comments about Pine and the people who run it. There is literally a global pandemic currently on-going - 400,000 people have died and a $#!^ load more have lost their jobs - and both of those headcounts continue to grow. Global shipping logistics have been interrupted on a level almost unprecedented in modern times - seriously, it doesn't matter that you "bought a bunch of other stuff from China and it got here sooner than this."

Here, here.

While there's been difficulties and they have been frustrating, we should bear in mind that Pine64 are a foundation and not a corporation. They don't have the same organisation and "clout" as Amazon and friends that we've been made to expect. But neither are they "taking the money and running", for I've bought from them before and everything arrived on time.

The circumstances are exceptional, and I think due to that we should temper our tones on this thread. The last thing we want to do is discourage the foundation from any more work. Their task is very necessary; we need a fully (or nearly fully) Free-Software compliant mobile phone that succeeds.

The words we speak in these threads have a real-world effect on the workforce, who are already under enough pressures from the pandemic and social unrest. We should strive to be encouragers, and work with them to resolve issues. Let's not work against them. They aren't the same cynical, haughty profiteers as you find in every corporation. They're much closer to being "on your side" than any McCompany or iProductMaker.

Even if we've waited longer than anticipated, I think the frustration will all be forgotten once the phones arrive. And arrive soon they will! Here's to free and open hardware   (we need a "cheers" smiley with tankards)