Why projects like PinePhone matter – feedback and encouragement

[Kevin Kofler]

The PinePhone was not discontinued, only the PinePhone Pro was.

[Gary2003]

I started researching seriously. I thought that sooner or later, I would probably have to switch to the iPhone, which today seems more respectful of privacy than Android smartphones.

apple and privacy .... may i laugh for 2 days!

maybe apple doesn't leak data to third parties like ads, but data is used in-doors. apple collects data like others.

and personally i think android might be better than ios in case of privacy, although it is complicated. maybe average stock android without modifications is worse than ios. but android could be debloated, although difficult. installing custom image is better way to go, although only on some devices.

where apple is definitely worse than alphabet inc and android manufactures, is lack of user control. apple controls roughly everything in their devices from bootloader to apps. in the longer run, if user doesn't have control over their devices, can they have privacy either. privacy might be just apple's empty promise and totally up to apple to keep it.

Indeed, it is important to point out all these issues regarding Apple.

Yes, in my research, I saw that there are modified versions of Android, but I had some questions about their reliability.

The PinePhone was not discontinued, only the PinePhone Pro was.

Thank you, it’s good to clarify that.

[biketool]

Only Pinephones (and maybe Librem) are confirmed incompatible with Cellbright if the boot flash is encrypted.

Apple and Android are born compromised, for the same reasons you can jailbreak or root locked bootloader phones, so can anyone else.

https://cellebrite.com/en/home/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite_UFED

The UFED (Universal Forensics Extraction Device) is a product series of the Israeli company Cellebrite, which is used for the extraction and analysis of data from mobile devices by law enforcement agencies.[1]
Features

On the UFED Touch, it is possible to select extraction of data and choose from a wide list of vendors. After the data extraction is done, it is possible to analyze the data in the Physical Analyzer application.[14]
The Cellebrite UFED Physical Analyzer supports the following features:[14]

• Extract device keys which can be used to decrypt raw disk images, as well as keychain items.
  
• Revealing device passwords, although this is not available for all locked devices
  
• Passcode recovery attacks
  
• Analysis and decoding of application data
  
• Generating reports in various formats such as PDF and HTML
  
• Dump the raw filesystem for analyzing it in other applications
  

[Gary2003]

Only Pinephones (and maybe Librem) are confirmed incompatible with Cellbright if the boot flash is encrypted.

Apple and Android are born compromised, for the same reasons you can jailbreak or root locked bootloader phones, so can anyone else.

https://cellebrite.com/en/home/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite_UFED

The UFED (Universal Forensics Extraction Device) is a product series of the Israeli company Cellebrite, which is used for the extraction and analysis of data from mobile devices by law enforcement agencies.[1]
Features

On the UFED Touch, it is possible to select extraction of data and choose from a wide list of vendors. After the data extraction is done, it is possible to analyze the data in the Physical Analyzer application.[14]
The Cellebrite UFED Physical Analyzer supports the following features:[14]

• Extract device keys which can be used to decrypt raw disk images, as well as keychain items.
  
• Revealing device passwords, although this is not available for all locked devices
  
• Passcode recovery attacks
  
• Analysis and decoding of application data
  
• Generating reports in various formats such as PDF and HTML
  
• Dump the raw filesystem for analyzing it in other applications
  

What's the plan? Are we throwing away all our iPhones and Samsungs, and is everyone getting a PinePhone? That’s the safest bet for our mission...



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