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  Misunderstanding the user base
Posted by: orbital - 08-14-2022, 05:39 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (9)

Pine and the distro makers have unfortunately "jumped the shark"
by trying to offer phones that might someday be competitive with Android/iOS i.e.
fast, responsive, good for gaming, amazing camera etc.

But this is not really what a Linux user wants. A Linux user wants different things from
the majority of users.
He wants:
1. to tinker first and foremost, configuring the phone in novel ways, starting with a functional phone not one with broken software;
2. to achieve privacy, and feel assured his data won't be exfiltrated to "the cloud", and use apps like Signal for Internet calling;
3. to write code for the phone, maybe write code on the phone itself.

But to gain adoption by Linux users the phone has to be able to
1. make calls reliably,
2. do SMS reliabily
3. and charge normally.

These 3 things should have been the top priority of Pine and the distro makers, but seem to have not been.

The distro makers apparently want to provide a nearly identical
experience and feature set to mainstream phone OSes (why?), and they have
loaded their GUIs down with bloated/slow software, rather than writing lean and fast
code using the bare bones approach e.g. with Xlib alone.

It is no big surprise that phones feel slow when they are using
KDE plasma or Python apps.

Pine for its part has failed to provide the basic hardware setup of a phone that:
A. charges normally without having to ever take out the battery;
B. has an EEPROM to store calibration data. They don't perform camera calibration at the factory
like ever other phone maker does, which means the camera
will never be calibrated because that can't be done at home.

In short, the Pine phones are a misfire, not conceived with the customers' needs in mind,
with bad distros brought by organizations not committed to the task and instead
committed to the wrong goals.


  PBP booting but stops at flashing power led
Posted by: jonasd - 08-14-2022, 05:09 PM - Forum: Pinebook Pro Hardware and Accessories - Replies (13)

I just received my new pinebook pro in 08/2022. After installing the ARM Manjaro Gnome desktop OS to eMMC booting from Manjaro SD card, the PBP started with the new OS. After a couple of system starts, the PBP booted showing the u-boot screen, then showed a blinking cursor in the upper left corner and just stopped with a green-orange-blinking power LED. This has not changed since then. The following paragraphs describe my attempts to fix the problem.

I tried booting from SD card (the same card that worked before) but it doesn't work anymore. I tried different Linux distros to create a bootable SD card using Balena Etcher, e.g. Manjaro Gnome/xfce/KDE and Armbian (new and older versions).

After that, I opened the back cover to check the eMMC switch (no. 24 regarding the PBP wiki). But the new PBP does not have the switch as described. There is another switch (turned by 90 degrees to the original one) which is covered/sealed by a transparent material. I compared the switch to my other PBP (2020 model) and it looks different in my new PBP.

Using a USB eMMC adapter, I flashed several Manjaro and Armbian linux distros on the eMMC and inserted it back into the PBP. My PBP does not boot anymore: not with the eMMC and not with a bootable SD card.

When I insert the eMMC of my old PBP, the PBP boots to an older Manjaro KDE plasma. Keeping the old eMMC in the PBP, I tried to boot from SD card to flash a newer distro to the old eMMC. But it did not work. The PBP only starts from the old eMMC and not from any inserted bootable SD card. The problem with the old eMMC is that wifi is not working (not showing any networks). I do not dare flashing the old eMMC using the USB eMMC adapter...

Is it possible that the new eMMC has a failure and how can I check?

I read a lot of threads in the forum, on reddit and other web sources but all described steps and tips did not work for me. Is there a better way to flash a linux distro with u-boot etc. to eMMC? I also read that it is possible to boot the PBP without eMMC. That does not work with my PBP. Has this changed with the new model? I highly appreciate any tips and hints on how to proceed with my new PBP.


  no audio ring on non chatty calls
Posted by: nemsys - 08-14-2022, 03:23 PM - Forum: Arch Linux on PinePhone - No Replies

fresh install on danctnix's phosh Arch image everything works as normal except none chatty notifications.

I have extended the feedbackd config to sound on missed as well as new sms and IM these work as inconsistently.

if the screen is locked and no existing (dino-im in this case) notifications have sounded then the sms sound plays (the screen doesn't turn on)

if I am in different app screen on no sound is played notification is displayed.

if a voice/video call comes through on the app no sound is played regardless of state, visual notification is displayed.

have tested incoming call event with fbcli and chatty both work (chatty also turns on screen).
below is a capture of the dbus event it appears to invoke incoming-call sound but no audio ring is played the screen doesn't turn on.

any ideas where I should look next ?

signal time=1660509632.125137 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.90 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus;
  string "Dino"
  uint32 0
  string ""
  string "SENDERADDRESS"
  string "Incoming call"
  array [
      string "default"
      string "Open conversation"
      string "reject"
      string "Reject"
      string "accept"
      string "Accept"
  ]
  array [
      dict entry(
        string "sound-name"
        variant            string "phone-incoming-call"
      )
      dict entry(
        string "urgency"
        variant            byte 2
      )
      dict entry(
        string "image-path"
        variant            string "call-start-symbolic"
      )
      dict entry(
        string "desktop-entry"
        variant            string "im.dino.Dino"
      )
  ]
  int32 0


  Can you make reliable calls yet?
Posted by: orbital - 08-14-2022, 02:51 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (26)

Hi,
What is the status of being able to make reliable calls on the PP and PPpro?
By reliable I mean:
- Calls go through
- Calls are not disconnected for no reason
- Audio levels are fine (sending and receiving).
- Both parties can hear each other.
Thanks.


Rainbow US Ansi Pinebook Pro for Sale
Posted by: loblolly - 08-14-2022, 01:14 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (2)

Pinebook Pro, ordered in mid-2020 but used very lightly since (mained for about 2 weeks). US ANSI keyboard. Comes with a 256GB Samsung Evo SD card that has a fresh install of Manjaro XFCE on it.

Hoping to sell for $175 150 shipped to the US.

Images: https://imgur.com/a/PT3Co5j

Images:

  • Note that the laptop has issues booting from the internal eMMC.The eMMC itself seems to be OK when removed from the laptop and plugged into a computer using the USB adapter, but I could not get the laptop to boot from it, and it’s not visible from an SD-card booted Linux instance. It’s possible the port is damaged in some way, or the issue is fixable and I just don’t know how, but I wouldn’t count on it. The eMMC itself has also been wiped.
  • Upgraded the trackpad firmware.
  • Comes with a USB eMMC adapter and serial console adapter from the Pine Store.


  RK3566 debug component clarification.
Posted by: Randomuser - 08-13-2022, 06:54 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Quartz64 - No Replies

So I've been debugging various things on my RK3566 based soquartz and standard debugging is becoming insufficient for my needs. Hardware tracing would be really nice to have and there is Coresight ETM support in Linux.

However before I spend lots of time trying to get it working can someone clarify for me if RK3566 actually has a functioning Coresight ETM component? If yes, is it version ETMv4 and what subcomponents it has(trace funnel? anything else)?

The RK3568 (that is supposedly very similar to rk3566) TRM document claims rk3568 has DAP-Lite2 debug component which is described on ARM;s website as "a simple debug component with no tracing capability."

So if there is no tracing capability why does the ROM table contain tracing components for each CPU? (listing below)

Code:
AP # 0x0
        AP ID register 0x24770002
        Type is MEM-AP APB2 or APB3
MEM-AP BASE 0x80000003
        Valid ROM table present
        Component base address 0x80000000
        Peripheral ID 0x0000080000
        Designer is 0x000, <invalid>
        Part is 0x000, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x1, ROM table
        MEMTYPE system memory not present: dedicated debug bus
    ROMTABLE[0x0] = 0x01000003
        Component base address 0x81000000
        Peripheral ID 0x04007bb4e3
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0x4e3, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x00, Miscellaneous, other
        Dev Arch is 0x47700af7, ARM Ltd "CoreSight ROM architecture" rev.0
        Type is ROM table
        MEMTYPE system memory not present: dedicated debug bus
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x0] = 0x00001006
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x4] = 0x00002006
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x8] = 0x00004003
        Component base address 0x81004000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x15, Debug Logic, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47708a15, ARM Ltd "Processor debug architecture (v8.2-A)" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0xc] = 0x00005003
        Component base address 0x81005000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x15, Debug Logic, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47708a15, ARM Ltd "Processor debug architecture (v8.2-A)" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x10] = 0x00006003
        Component base address 0x81006000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x15, Debug Logic, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47708a15, ARM Ltd "Processor debug architecture (v8.2-A)" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x14] = 0x00007003
        Component base address 0x81007000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x15, Debug Logic, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47708a15, ARM Ltd "Processor debug architecture (v8.2-A)" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x18] = 0x00008002
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x1c] = 0x00009002
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x20] = 0x0000a002
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x24] = 0x0000b002
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x28] = 0x0000c003
        Component base address 0x8100c000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x16, Performance Monitor, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47702a16, ARM Ltd "Processor Performance Monitor (PMU) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x2c] = 0x0000d003
        Component base address 0x8100d000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x16, Performance Monitor, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47702a16, ARM Ltd "Processor Performance Monitor (PMU) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x30] = 0x0000e003
        Component base address 0x8100e000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x16, Performance Monitor, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47702a16, ARM Ltd "Processor Performance Monitor (PMU) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x34] = 0x0000f003
        Component base address 0x8100f000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x16, Performance Monitor, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47702a16, ARM Ltd "Processor Performance Monitor (PMU) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x38] = 0x00014003
        Component base address 0x81014000
        Peripheral ID 0x04007bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x14, Debug Control, Trigger Matrix
        Dev Arch is 0x47701a14, ARM Ltd "Cross Trigger Interface (CTI) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x3c] = 0x00015003
        Component base address 0x81015000
        Peripheral ID 0x04007bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x14, Debug Control, Trigger Matrix
        Dev Arch is 0x47701a14, ARM Ltd "Cross Trigger Interface (CTI) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x40] = 0x00016003
        Component base address 0x81016000
        Peripheral ID 0x04007bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x14, Debug Control, Trigger Matrix
        Dev Arch is 0x47701a14, ARM Ltd "Cross Trigger Interface (CTI) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x44] = 0x00017003
        Component base address 0x81017000
        Peripheral ID 0x04007bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x14, Debug Control, Trigger Matrix
        Dev Arch is 0x47701a14, ARM Ltd "Cross Trigger Interface (CTI) architecture" rev.0
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x48] = 0x0001c003
        Component base address 0x8101c000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x13, Trace Source, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47724a13, ARM Ltd "Embedded Trace Macrocell (ETM) architecture" rev.2
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x4c] = 0x0001d003
        Component base address 0x8101d000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x13, Trace Source, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47724a13, ARM Ltd "Embedded Trace Macrocell (ETM) architecture" rev.2
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x50] = 0x0001e003
        Component base address 0x8101e000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x13, Trace Source, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47724a13, ARM Ltd "Embedded Trace Macrocell (ETM) architecture" rev.2
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x54] = 0x0001f003
        Component base address 0x8101f000
        Peripheral ID 0x04003bbd05
        Designer is 0x23b, ARM Ltd
        Part is 0xd05, Unrecognized
        Component class is 0x9, CoreSight component
        Type is 0x13, Trace Source, Processor
        Dev Arch is 0x47724a13, ARM Ltd "Embedded Trace Macrocell (ETM) architecture" rev.2
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x58] = 0x00000002
        Component not present
    [L01] ROMTABLE[0x5c] = 0x00000002
        Component not present

It is clear we have a CTI, a PMU and an ETM for each core. Can anyone confirm/deny if those can be made to work?

BTW. If anyone is interested how to do hardware level debug on Quartz64 I wrote a quick description here: http://notes.zahoryzontnik.com/


  alarming sound coming from pinebook pro
Posted by: jazzhands - 08-13-2022, 06:47 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (2)

A couple days ago I received my Pinebook Pro. Immediately after first boot I started to hear an occasional startling sound coming from the lower half of the machine. It is the kind of sound that reminds me of a speaker getting its cable pulled out (although much "smaller" sounding of course). On the other hand, it plausibly sounds like a fan having a malfunction -- I have not heard a fan on this during use so far, presumably it has one?

If I had to guess, it is coming from the lower left side, e,g, under the caps lock and the meta key. It happens randomly, but at least 5 times in a couple hours of use.

Any ideas?

EDIT:
fwiw, https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?...#pid111949


  new PBP issues
Posted by: jpjnh - 08-13-2022, 01:47 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (9)

Got the new PBP this week. The first couple of hours went well getting setup. Have had the following issues:

  1. random humming for a few seconds followed by a popping sound coming from speakers.
  2. Then did not plug in before battery drained and next time I tried to boot after charging for a few hours, got the green power-on light but nothing on the display. I know the battery is charged so I suspect something on the software side has gone amiss. I ordered the emmc-usb adapter in order to flash new os. Will try that once I get it
  3. Today while booting off the Fedora32 image on an SD card, I got the popping sounds again and the keyboard dies.

Is this a defective laptop or are there things I can try to fix these issues? (Willing to try if there are options)


  A fix for Bluetooth audio stuttering on the RockPro64
Posted by: raph - 08-13-2022, 02:38 AM - Forum: Linux on RockPro64 - Replies (2)

Hello,

I've bought the wifi+blueooth module for the RockPro64 board (https://pine64.com/product/rockpro64-1x1...-0-module/).

I have been struggling to make Bluetooth audio work with it. It stuttered a lot, but yesterday I found a solution. Please test it and report back, I need feedback from a few people so I can submit a kernel patch with enough confidence.

Quick explanation: A patch that fixes the stutters on ROCK Pi 4 boards, also based on the rk3399 board with the same BCM4345C5 Bluetooth device, also on UART0, has been submitted last November: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/lin...tions.com/

This fix sets the correct right max-speed and compatibility configurations for the Bluetooth device to work correctly. It is already present for the Pinebook Pro. The same fix needs to be applied for the RockPro64.

I'm using Armbian, so the following instructions might need to be adapted for other distributions, though the fix not to be specific to Armbian and the instructions might be generic enough.

I attached 3 files to this post. Please remove the .txt extensions when downloading them. Here's how to use them.

Testing quicky

First, I only tested this on linux 5.18. This is not the default kernel version on Armbian for the RockPro64. The default kernel is 5.15. To install version 5.18, you can use the armbian-config tool which will install the linux-image-edge-rockchip64 kernel. 5.15 might work but I haven't tested it.

So:

  • Backup your stuff. We are messing with boot files.
  • If you haven't already, install linux 5.18 (the linux-image-edge-rockchip64 kernel, which can be installed using armbian-config)
  • Download the rk3399-rockpro64-v2.dtb and rk3399-rockpro64.dtb files attached to this post. Remove the .txt extensions.
  • Then, as root (add sudo as needed):


Code:
cp /boot/dtb-5.18.0-rockchip64/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64-v2.dtb{,.bak}
cp /boot/dtb-5.18.0-rockchip64/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64.dtb{,.bak}
cp rk3399-rockpro64-v2.dtb /boot/dtb-5.18.0-rockchip64/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64-v2.dtb
cp rk3399-rockpro64.dtb /boot/dtb-5.18.0-rockchip64/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64.dtb

And then reboot. Be aware that any kernel upgrade will probably erase these files and you'll need to copy them back after upgrade.

These files actually come from a kernel build, so if you want, you can recompile the kernel with the fix.

Recompiling the kernel

The previous instructions are sufficient to use the fix. However, if you may want to recompile your kernel with this fix.

Apply the attached patch. I'm testing this on kernel 5.18. The patch should cleanly apply on versions 5.18 and 5.19. I've not tested this on 5.15. On Armbian, you can download the kernel sources using apt install linux-source-5.18.0-edge-rockchip64. You'll find the kernel sources and the config used in Armbian for the RockPro64 in the /usr/src folder. The following is sufficient to build the dtb files:

Code:
make dtbs

If you want to build deb packages, use make deb-pkg.



Attached Files
.txt   0001-arm64-dts-rockchip-Fix-Bluetooth-on-the-RockPro64-bo.patch.txt (Size: 1.57 KB / Downloads: 418)
.txt   rk3399-rockpro64-v2.dtb.txt (Size: 78.48 KB / Downloads: 479)
.txt   rk3399-rockpro64.dtb.txt (Size: 78.48 KB / Downloads: 493)

  Replacing Manjero with Ubunto on a PBP
Posted by: john.ismyname - 08-12-2022, 07:44 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (5)

A few months ago, I got a PBP, which I love! I do want to replace the factory loaded Manjero with Ubuntu. Please advise the procedure for this.

After never having used Linux before, I installed Ubuntu on a an old wounded Windows 11 machine without really knowing what I was doing and it worked!

I am this inclined to invoke the boot menu on start-up (is this ALT + F2 on PBP?) and install from the USB drive I used for the Win 11 machine.

Please advise.

- John