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  Did you have to pay import tax on your PBP?
Posted by: zaius - 10-19-2019, 01:19 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (144)

If so, please post in this thread where you are located.

Thanks Smile


  What OS to choose for my PinePhone ?
Posted by: PhiletJosie - 10-19-2019, 11:06 AM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (10)

I never had a smartphone, neither a mobile phone, and I'm eagerly waiting for the pinephone.
I do not know clearly what OS I should use. Here are my needs:
 - properly working phone and SMS
- easy synchronisation of contacts, agenda and bookmarks with my Ubuntu computers
- a map application with the ability to load maps for offline use, for weeks long mountain walks
- a good web browser, ideally Firefox, as it is my default browser and I already synchronise bookmarks with it
- ability to take photos

I'm thinking of using UBport, but I do not know if it will answer all my needs. And what about Pure OS, made by Purism ? Will it be possible to install it in the PinePhone ?

Thanks for any help.


  Pinebook Pro: Is it an option for me?
Posted by: Damage Inc. - 10-19-2019, 12:14 AM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (7)

Hey all,

This is my first post here so let me start with some background and a short introduction: I'm Markus, aged 41, father and husband (which means limited tinkering time) from Germany.

I do casual computing with Linux with distro hopping in the past, but mainly on Ubuntu flavors these days, since ~15 years.

I do buy my hardware on a rather tight budget, partly because for my needs 5 year old PCs are just good enough for my needs and in terms of "bang for the buck" and for environmental reasons.
My personal budget has been also very tight in the past. While it's much better now, I still don't dump my money as easily as before.

At the moment I am writing with a Thinkpad T400 that's 10+ years old, upgraded with an SSD and maxed out RAM, but with a dead battery which I'm not planning to replace anymore, so it will move to a stationary use in the house.

It's time for something new and more mobile (read: smaller, less weight and a working battery) as the main machine. I was considering a used Thinkpad X240 as next machine for a daily driver when I got aware of the Pinebook Pro which would come at a similar price tag.

A Pinebook Pro would be my first serious ARM based computer apart from my aging Android phone and a raspberry pi behind my TV, but I find myself seriously considering it.

So I collected some Pros and Cons:

Pros:
-drastically lighter than my current thinkpad, slightly lighter than the X240
-Small device but with a decent screen similar to X240
-Looong battery life thanks to low power consuption
-USB-C connectivity
- I don't need tons of storage, there's a NAS for that in the attic Wink
- I'm really curious to try something new


(possible) Cons:
- Compatibility issues with Applications (and also games) I can use today(?)
- the ARM variants are not as universally compatible as x86 architecture, so
-- much smaller choice of Linux distributions
-- no practical option to continue using Ubuntu(?) which I frequently return to these days
- Can this "just work" for me or will I have to fiddle around frequently?

The list could surely be longer, but I think it's time to consult the community now:

- Did I make fairly accurate assumptions above?
- According to your experience, also with the first Pinebook, what does or does NOT work for you? That could really help to set my expectations straight...

Thanks in advance, Markus


  Application Software for ARM
Posted by: zaius - 10-18-2019, 01:21 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)

My apologies if this was posted already, or is in the wrong place.

There are many websites and app stores that list software for Linux.  However, I've noticed that many popular applications only run on x86 or do not run on ARM.

Is there a website that lists applications that run on ARM?  Or an ARM package manager?

Thanks Smile


  Help with OMV on Rock64
Posted by: Lindzaur - 10-18-2019, 08:07 AM - Forum: Linux on Rock64 - Replies (1)

Hello,
I'm new to Rock64, linux and OMV and am trying to stumble my way through it but could use a little help.
My goal is to have a nice little home NAS and maybe run some other good stuff like add blocking, vpn, webserver etc.

I have my rock 64 with usb3 external drive connected via ethernet to my TP-Link Archer C7 wireless router.
I'm running an older image from ayufan, stretch-openmediavault-rock64-0.8.0rc14-1134-armhf, which has worked pretty great so far as I can tell.

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I'm following this guide for setting up the OMV NAS: http://files.syabas.com/popcornhour/down...180122.pdf
I've been able to do most of the applicable set-up steps and can SSH, access a shared folder from my windows 10 laptop  etc. - sweet!

But I'm getting stuck on assigning a static IP within OMV, I get the error:

Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C.UTF-8; systemctl start 'networking' 2>&1' with exit code '1': Job for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.

What does this means and how can  correct it? Should I set up the static routing in my router instead?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!


  Pinebook Pro for novice users?
Posted by: mzs.112000 - 10-17-2019, 11:16 PM - Forum: General Discussion on Pinebook Pro - Replies (7)

I'm thinking about getting 2 Pinebook Pro's. These will be used for novice computer users,

Based on your experience, would it be a good choice, to give to 2 young computer users?

Their usage case largely centers around YouTube, Music, Netflix, Minecraft, schooling(which doesn't use Java or Flash), and more YouTube.
Generally they aren't interested in installing software or messing around in the system. Both users already run Linux on a shared laptop(my old C2D P8700 one).

Of course, spec-wise, in terms of raw hardware, I don't think they will have any issues, since they already use a laptop with 4GB of RAM, possibly a slower 160GB HDD, and a slower P8700 CPU(it geekbenches lower than the RK3399), screen is lower res.

I think that their main issues would end up being software-based. They play Minecraft: Java, I don't know if it will work on ARM, but presumably OpenJDK should, Ubuntu has packages for it on ARM. YouTube should work, Netflix is browser based, should also work, and their school site is also browser based, works on both Firefox and Chromium.


So, do you think a PB Pro would fare well once pressed into service as a media consumption laptop for an average user who expects things to work without any tinkering at all? Or might they be better served with a Chromebook?


  What is really Spooky this month...
Posted by: KNERD - 10-17-2019, 06:42 PM - Forum: General Discussion on PinePhone - Replies (2)

While the October announcement mentioned a delay due to problems with a supplier's digitizers/screens, there was no mention about what sort of delay this would put on the "Brave Heart" edition order starting since it was included "... production of the Brave Heart editions starts in late October."

Late October is coming fast. No pressure..just curious


  5.3 kernel support?
Posted by: csrf - 10-17-2019, 04:36 PM - Forum: Linux on Rock64 - Replies (5)

what's the status on kernel developement/support for the latest 5.x kernel?
I have a rock64 (version 1?) and I'm wondering if there are still plans to support it, or if the board is more/less being "given up on" at this point...


  Manjaro instability
Posted by: DAMO238 - 10-17-2019, 07:28 AM - Forum: Linux on Pinebook - Replies (6)

I have tried a few different versions of manjaro-arm for pinebook, all of which seem to have the same problem, whenever you boot, or the screen turns off for any reason, there is a very low chance that the screen will display anything (but the backlight may still be on). This typically happens after the initial `pacman -Syu`. I have never had any trouble with manjaro on other devices (x86_64), so I am unsure of what I am doing wrong. I really like using manjaro (mainly for its package manager, AUR and ease of use), but it just doesn't seem to work. This problem occurs on both on sd card and on emmc. I cannot enter a tty when it is in this state (or at least, I can't see them) and the only way out is to force it off and start it up again as many times as it takes to make sure it stays on.


  Tested PCIe cards and output
Posted by: kram0000 - 10-16-2019, 08:23 PM - Forum: RockPro64 Hardware and Accessories - Replies (5)

Hi all, I really want to love this little board but I just can't.  Not being able to use my Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 is nearly a dealbreaker, and I do not have serial capability.  Strangest behavior is that all the cards but the Supermicro would boot the rockpro, even if they don't seem to be supported.  Supermicro just sits with a blinking cursor on the screen and no reaction to anything.

Anyways, I plugged in every PCIe addon card I had and took some dmesg and lspci logs.  Maybe someone here can figure out things for others.

Can't post it on here so I'll put it on pastebin raw format.

EVGA geforce GT 730 P/N 01G-P3-2730-KR dmesg

PNY Nvidia Quadro K620 VCQK620-T dmesg
PNY Nvidia Quadro lspci -vvv

LSI SAS 9271-4i dmesg
LSI lspci -vvv

Asus Hyper M.2 X4 dmesg

Asus USB 3.1 2-port card dmesg
Asus USB lspci