02-11-2016, 01:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-11-2016, 02:01 PM by sdwhwk.
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The PCB question has been asked before two months ago.
So they knew this discussion could come up for a while, but the wording has not changed or that stipulation has not been added. The only thing brought up was rewording or adding words to the phrase, but all meaning the same thing; open source hardware. No license has been listed, and there are a few open source licenses, so open source means everything in this case. That would be like the airlines saying they fly everywhere from New York to California, but then say "we don't really fly directly there, but we have people that live there and we can give you their address to drive there and then they can fly you to the city you want there." and still keep the same statement. This isn't a translation error. This is two weeks and as of this post, same statement and no clarity.
Now i love this project, but i too was expecting schematics, PCB layout, data-sheets, and (probably reaching) a parts list, just like the OP. I backed under that assumption. For me, this isn't a deal breaker, but for others it might be. The only reason given was because of overclocking and support. I don't need a Gerber file to do that. All I need is Google and someone with the will to by enough of these cheap computers to figure it out or someone with knowledge about the board to post it. End result will be the same with or without PCB; no support. Pine builds the boards. They support the boards they build, if warranty is the sit, and original design. You make it yourself, it is your support. It's now your board. I can think of many things other than overclocking for the PCB; customize layout, add/remove/change out unneeded/needed parts, repair purposes, changing form factor size to fit the need, make it with even cheaper parts so a student can learn how to do it or more expensive for better quality and piece of mind (I'd lean to the cheap route), the list goes on. But a license does need to be produced to protect the company from someone making a clone and profiting it. It doesn't mean, though, they have to support modifications. If that was the case, they'd have to support 3rd party shields as well, even older ones for rpi. That just wouldn't make sense.
Quote:(12-13-2015, 05:50 AM)hazerty Wrote:
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schematic diagram will be open source or not?
We plan to release the schematic once got clearnace from technical partners. However, we will not release PCB and Gerber file.
So they knew this discussion could come up for a while, but the wording has not changed or that stipulation has not been added. The only thing brought up was rewording or adding words to the phrase, but all meaning the same thing; open source hardware. No license has been listed, and there are a few open source licenses, so open source means everything in this case. That would be like the airlines saying they fly everywhere from New York to California, but then say "we don't really fly directly there, but we have people that live there and we can give you their address to drive there and then they can fly you to the city you want there." and still keep the same statement. This isn't a translation error. This is two weeks and as of this post, same statement and no clarity.
Now i love this project, but i too was expecting schematics, PCB layout, data-sheets, and (probably reaching) a parts list, just like the OP. I backed under that assumption. For me, this isn't a deal breaker, but for others it might be. The only reason given was because of overclocking and support. I don't need a Gerber file to do that. All I need is Google and someone with the will to by enough of these cheap computers to figure it out or someone with knowledge about the board to post it. End result will be the same with or without PCB; no support. Pine builds the boards. They support the boards they build, if warranty is the sit, and original design. You make it yourself, it is your support. It's now your board. I can think of many things other than overclocking for the PCB; customize layout, add/remove/change out unneeded/needed parts, repair purposes, changing form factor size to fit the need, make it with even cheaper parts so a student can learn how to do it or more expensive for better quality and piece of mind (I'd lean to the cheap route), the list goes on. But a license does need to be produced to protect the company from someone making a clone and profiting it. It doesn't mean, though, they have to support modifications. If that was the case, they'd have to support 3rd party shields as well, even older ones for rpi. That just wouldn't make sense.