Possible US legislative threat to Pinephone?
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(03-26-2023, 04:04 PM)zetabeta Wrote:
(03-26-2023, 02:41 PM)Westslope Wrote: Hello, I stumbled upon something here in the US that might be a concern to Pinephone and users of non Android/iOS phones.
There are organizations and people pushing for US States to pass legislation to mandate "smartphones" and "tablets" come preloaded with family-friendly content filters by default.

While I'm not against the idea of having content filters to prevent minors from accessing hardcore pornography (labeled as "obscene material" in legislation), the way the proposed legislation is written makes it a criminal/fineable offense to sell devices that don't have such filters in place. While this may be a simple thing to do for Android and iOS, it seems like it may be a problem for librephones like Pinephone.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/po...-rcna73626

Here is the bill from Utah, which became law:
https://le.utah.gov/~2021/bills/hbillenr/HB0072.pdf

Here is a similar bill in Montana, which is in the legislative process. It has passed the House and is currently in a Senate committee.
https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2023/billhtml/HB0349.htm

I wanted to post this here because my legalese is not great and to see what others think.
Maybe this won't be a problem for Pinephone and it's users, but if my understanding is correct, it could be.

one reason i am shying away from android is preloaded stuff from google and oem, also bootloader (half-)locks. usually i'm more worried about corporate power rather than government power. however, this starts to sound going too far. even those preloaded stuff could be used for innocuous purposes, it is still more power to the government and corporations. sooner or later, it will be abused by powers. also i don't think those preloaded stuff work as intended, meaning does not do the job or blocks too much.

someone pays for these controls, ultimately it will be device buyers.

u.k. tried to establish a law which put pornography content filters to internet service providers. it could be deactivated, but default would have been activated. (that law never passed, in my knowledge.)

these controls have to be done at software level, so how it relates to pinephone. pine org may not be directly liable for software.

i said it here some time ago. in case of coronavirus apps, i think government has temporary right to track users. but it needs to happen with separate devices with open specs and open source software with own cloud without no connection to private corporations. (that temporary time has passed). however, forcing some third party apps to our devices is just wrong.

in regards to 18 years old and older, these laws are just totally wrong. what is about pornography, politicians score cheap points trying to play a good guy. i think there are more worrisome things than this.

disclaimer:
parents have right to supervise their minors and their devices, but it isn't necessarily good idea in all cases.


A problem I see with this legislation is the people who wrote it think it's "just turning on the filter option in Android and iOS". They don't seem to have a clue that there are other operating systems or how the technology actually works. The legislation is therefore obtuse in defining and implementing what they're trying to do. Does it mean shipping a device without an OS would be illegal, since it has no filter installed?






Quote:NEW SECTION. Section 2. Definitions. For the purposes of [sections 1 through 6], the following definitions apply:
(1)        "Activate" means the process of powering on an electronic device and associating it with a new user account.
(2)        "Electronic device" means a tablet or a smart phone.
(3)        "Internet" has the same meaning as provided in 2-17-551.
(4)        "Manufacturer" means a person that is engaged in the business of manufacturing an electronic device and has a commercial registered agent as defined in 35-7-102 and a patent.
(5)        "Obscenity filter" means software installed on an electronic device that is capable of preventing the electronic device from accessing or displaying obscenity, pursuant to 45-8-201, through the internet or any applications owned and controlled by the manufacturer and installed on the device.
(6)        "Smart phone" means an electronic device that combines a cell phone with a hand-held computer, typically offering internet access, data storage, text, and e-mail capabilities.
(7)        "Tablet" means an electronic device equipped with a mobile operating system, touchscreen display, and rechargeable battery, typically offering internet access.


The definition should probably read more like:

(6)        "Smart phone" means a consumer retail electronic device that combines a cell phone with a hand-held computer and equipped with a commercially developed, consumer-oriented mobile operating system, typically offering internet access, data storage, text messaging, voice calling, and e-mail capabilities.

(7)        "Tablet" means a consumer retail electronic device equipped with a commercially developed, consumer-oriented mobile operating system, touchscreen display, and rechargeable battery, typically offering internet access.
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RE: ⚠ Possible US legislative threat to Pinephone? ⚠ - by Westslope - 03-26-2023, 05:36 PM

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