08-21-2022, 08:05 AM
Ok : sometimes i surely opened accidentally the bottom menu too. But as you understood : for me, it is not the current priority. A phone which drains its battery in 4 hours and don't assume voice calls quality is simply unusable. I don't blame Pine for that : the hardware is not in fault to my point of view. As i told, there are a lot of processes which should be turn off to improve battery duration, and currently, they are not.
For the GUI, a long time ago (15 years ?), some people decides in the Gnome project to make a tactile GUI - ok. I was never convinced that it was a great idea for desktops and laptops, (i'm still using Mate / Gnome2), but i can understand that some people would more animations. No problems with that.
The fact is simply that today Gnome interfaces are still not optimized for small devices, and for a phone GUI, it's a failure... I thought that the pinephone commercial output will wake up Gnome devs, and push them to rewrite their apps. Two years passed - and when i go to the Settings in Phosh, some menus are still unusable, even with rotation. I even notice more crashs os Settings with the current version. So what's wrong ?
I know as a developper that when you make this kind of mistake, it can take a long time to refactoring all of your applications. Sometimes it's even faster to restart the app from zero. But two years...
That was precisely the great advantage of writing webapps for Firefox OS : rotating and resizing apps was very easy using HTML/JS. And i don't remember to had communication problems with my Mozilla phones. The GUI was very smooth, with very little ressources. So why with a lot more ressources, we still don't have a working phone ?
And ok : convergence is funny, but it's not the main goal of a phone device too... Currently, the pinephone is a funny GNU/Linux tablet. But it's still not a phone !
And don't blame me to not solve the problems i encounter : developing webapps for the phone took me long days, and solving Gnome bugs is not my job...
I just hope like many that Phosh will finally become stable.
For the GUI, a long time ago (15 years ?), some people decides in the Gnome project to make a tactile GUI - ok. I was never convinced that it was a great idea for desktops and laptops, (i'm still using Mate / Gnome2), but i can understand that some people would more animations. No problems with that.
The fact is simply that today Gnome interfaces are still not optimized for small devices, and for a phone GUI, it's a failure... I thought that the pinephone commercial output will wake up Gnome devs, and push them to rewrite their apps. Two years passed - and when i go to the Settings in Phosh, some menus are still unusable, even with rotation. I even notice more crashs os Settings with the current version. So what's wrong ?
I know as a developper that when you make this kind of mistake, it can take a long time to refactoring all of your applications. Sometimes it's even faster to restart the app from zero. But two years...
That was precisely the great advantage of writing webapps for Firefox OS : rotating and resizing apps was very easy using HTML/JS. And i don't remember to had communication problems with my Mozilla phones. The GUI was very smooth, with very little ressources. So why with a lot more ressources, we still don't have a working phone ?
And ok : convergence is funny, but it's not the main goal of a phone device too... Currently, the pinephone is a funny GNU/Linux tablet. But it's still not a phone !
And don't blame me to not solve the problems i encounter : developing webapps for the phone took me long days, and solving Gnome bugs is not my job...
I just hope like many that Phosh will finally become stable.