Spontaneous numlock

ab1jx · 04-14-2021, 12:24 PM

I'm pretty sure it doesn't, I'll check again in a little while when I switch back. But the Pause and Scroll lock (or print screen) turn the numlock LED on and off. It's like the keycodes are wrong, that's why I was wondering if ansi and iso keyboards use different dtbs. But on a similar note in Manjaro the # key gives me a British Pound symbol so the keyboard type may be wrong. That could affect numlock maybe?

The speaker still doesn't switch in Debian Bullseye. But numlock doesn't work. F12/Pause and F9/Print screen are doing a full numlock, both the LED turns on and characters that get typed change to numbers for the keys with numbers.

dsimic · 04-14-2021, 12:45 PM

Did you select the right keyboard type in Manjaro ARM, when you were asked for it?

ab1jx · (This post was last modified: 04-14-2021, 01:09 PM by ab1jx.)

I think so, I wasn't planning to keep it. I'm in Manjaro now. The speakers do turn off when you plug in headphones.

Numlock doesn't work but F9 and F12 give numlock, same as in Debian. I haven't found in Manjaro where you switch keyboard settings. I also installed LXDE but I haven't figured out how to switch yet.

dumpkeys says:

Code:
keymaps 0-2,4-6,8-9,12

keycode   1 = Escape          

    alt    keycode   1 = Meta_Escape     

    shift    alt    keycode   1 = Meta_Escape     

    control    alt    keycode   1 = Meta_Escape     

keycode   2 = one              exclam          

    alt    keycode   2 = Meta_one        

    shift    alt    keycode   2 = Meta_exclam     

keycode   3 = two              quotedbl         at              

    control    keycode   3 = nul             

    alt    keycode   3 = Meta_two        

    shift    alt    keycode   3 = Meta_quotedbl   

    control    alt    keycode   3 = Meta_nul        

keycode   4 = three           

    control    keycode   4 = Escape          

    alt    keycode   4 = Meta_three      

keycode   5 = four             dollar           dollar          

    control    keycode   5 = Control_backslash

    alt    keycode   5 = Meta_four       

    shift    alt    keycode   5 = Meta_dollar     

    control    alt    keycode   5 = Meta_Control_backslash

keycode   6 = five             percent         

    control    keycode   6 = Control_bracketright

    alt    keycode   6 = Meta_five       

    shift    alt    keycode   6 = Meta_percent    

keycode   7 = six              asciicircum     

    control    keycode   7 = Control_asciicircum

    alt    keycode   7 = Meta_six        

    shift    alt    keycode   7 = Meta_asciicircum

keycode   8 = seven            ampersand        braceleft       

    control    keycode   8 = Control_underscore

    alt    keycode   8 = Meta_seven      

    shift    alt    keycode   8 = Meta_ampersand  

    control    alt    keycode   8 = Meta_Control_underscore

keycode   9 = eight            asterisk         bracketleft     

    control    keycode   9 = Delete          

    alt    keycode   9 = Meta_eight      

    shift    alt    keycode   9 = Meta_asterisk   

    control    alt    keycode   9 = Meta_Delete     

keycode  10 = nine             parenleft        bracketright    

    alt    keycode  10 = Meta_nine       

    shift    alt    keycode  10 = Meta_parenleft  

keycode  11 = zero             parenright       braceright      

    alt    keycode  11 = Meta_zero       

    shift    alt    keycode  11 = Meta_parenright 

keycode  12 = minus            underscore       backslash       

    control    keycode  12 = Control_underscore

    alt    keycode  12 = Meta_minus      

    shift    alt    keycode  12 = Meta_underscore 

    control    alt    keycode  12 = Meta_Control_underscore

keycode  13 = equal            plus            

    alt    keycode  13 = Meta_equal      

    shift    alt    keycode  13 = Meta_plus       

keycode  14 = Delete          

    control    keycode  14 = Control_underscore

    alt    keycode  14 = Meta_Delete     

    shift    alt    keycode  14 = Meta_Delete     

    control    alt    keycode  14 = Meta_Control_underscore

keycode  15 = Tab             

    shift    keycode  15 = Meta_Tab        

    alt    keycode  15 = Meta_Tab        

    control    alt    keycode  15 = Meta_Tab        

keycode  16 = q               

keycode  17 = w               

keycode  18 = e               

keycode  19 = r               

keycode  20 = t               

keycode  21 = y               

keycode  22 = u               

keycode  23 = i               

keycode  24 = o               

keycode  25 = p               

keycode  26 = bracketleft      braceleft       

    control    keycode  26 = Escape          

    alt    keycode  26 = Meta_bracketleft

    shift    alt    keycode  26 = Meta_braceleft  

keycode  27 = bracketright     braceright       asciitilde      

    control    keycode  27 = Control_bracketright

    alt    keycode  27 = Meta_bracketright

    shift    alt    keycode  27 = Meta_braceright 

    control    alt    keycode  27 = Meta_Control_bracketright

keycode  28 = Return          

    alt    keycode  28 = Meta_Control_m  

keycode  29 = Control         

keycode  30 = a               

keycode  31 = s               

keycode  32 = d               

keycode  33 = f               

keycode  34 = g               

keycode  35 = h               

keycode  36 = j               

keycode  37 = k               

keycode  38 = l               

keycode  39 = semicolon        colon           

    alt    keycode  39 = Meta_semicolon  

    shift    alt    keycode  39 = Meta_colon      

keycode  40 = apostrophe       at              

    control    keycode  40 = Control_g       

    shift    control    keycode  40 = nul             

    alt    keycode  40 = Meta_apostrophe 

    shift    alt    keycode  40 = Meta_at         

keycode  41 = grave           

    altgr    keycode  41 = bar             

    control    keycode  41 = nul             

    alt    keycode  41 = Meta_grave      

    control    alt    keycode  41 = Meta_nul        

keycode  42 = Shift           

keycode  43 = numbersign       asciitilde      

    control    keycode  43 = Control_backslash

    alt    keycode  43 = Meta_numbersign 

    shift    alt    keycode  43 = Meta_asciitilde 

keycode  44 = z               

keycode  45 = x               

keycode  46 = c               

keycode  47 = v               

keycode  48 = b               

keycode  49 = n               

keycode  50 = m               

keycode  51 = comma            less            

    alt    keycode  51 = Meta_comma      

    shift    alt    keycode  51 = Meta_less       

keycode  52 = period           greater         

    alt    keycode  52 = Meta_period     

    shift    alt    keycode  52 = Meta_greater    

keycode  53 = slash            question        

    control    keycode  53 = Delete          

    alt    keycode  53 = Meta_slash      

    shift    alt    keycode  53 = Meta_question   

keycode  54 = Shift           

keycode  55 = KP_Multiply     

    altgr    keycode  55 = Hex_C           

keycode  56 = Alt             

keycode  57 = space           

    control    keycode  57 = nul             

    alt    keycode  57 = Meta_space      

    shift    alt    keycode  57 = Meta_space      

    control    alt    keycode  57 = Meta_nul        

keycode  58 = Caps_Lock       

keycode  59 = F1               F13              Console_13      

    control    keycode  59 = F25             

    alt    keycode  59 = Console_1       

    control    alt    keycode  59 = Console_1       

keycode  60 = F2               F14              Console_14      

    control    keycode  60 = F26             

    alt    keycode  60 = Console_2       

    control    alt    keycode  60 = Console_2       

keycode  61 = F3               F15              Console_15      

    control    keycode  61 = F27             

    alt    keycode  61 = Console_3       

    control    alt    keycode  61 = Console_3       

keycode  62 = F4               F16              Console_16      

    control    keycode  62 = F28             

    alt    keycode  62 = Console_4       

    control    alt    keycode  62 = Console_4       

keycode  63 = F5               F17              Console_17      

    control    keycode  63 = F29             

    alt    keycode  63 = Console_5       

    control    alt    keycode  63 = Console_5       

keycode  64 = F6               F18              Console_18      

    control    keycode  64 = F30             

    alt    keycode  64 = Console_6       

    control    alt    keycode  64 = Console_6       

keycode  65 = F7               F19              Console_19      

    control    keycode  65 = F31             

    alt    keycode  65 = Console_7       

    control    alt    keycode  65 = Console_7       

keycode  66 = F8               F20              Console_20      

    control    keycode  66 = F32             

    alt    keycode  66 = Console_8       

    control    alt    keycode  66 = Console_8       

keycode  67 = F9               F21              Console_21      

    control    keycode  67 = F33             

    alt    keycode  67 = Console_9       

    control    alt    keycode  67 = Console_9       

keycode  68 = F10              F22              Console_22      

    control    keycode  68 = F34             

    alt    keycode  68 = Console_10      

    control    alt    keycode  68 = Console_10      

keycode  69 = Num_Lock        

    altgr    keycode  69 = Hex_A           

keycode  70 = Scroll_Lock      Show_Memory      Show_Registers  

    control    keycode  70 = Show_State      

    alt    keycode  70 = Scroll_Lock     

keycode  71 = KP_7            

    altgr    keycode  71 = Hex_7           

    alt    keycode  71 = Ascii_7         

keycode  72 = KP_8            

    altgr    keycode  72 = Hex_8           

    alt    keycode  72 = Ascii_8         

keycode  73 = KP_9            

    altgr    keycode  73 = Hex_9           

    alt    keycode  73 = Ascii_9         

keycode  74 = KP_Subtract     

    altgr    keycode  74 = Hex_D           

keycode  75 = KP_4            

    altgr    keycode  75 = Hex_4           

    alt    keycode  75 = Ascii_4         

keycode  76 = KP_5            

    altgr    keycode  76 = Hex_5           

    alt    keycode  76 = Ascii_5         

keycode  77 = KP_6            

    altgr    keycode  77 = Hex_6           

    alt    keycode  77 = Ascii_6         

keycode  78 = KP_Add          

    altgr    keycode  78 = Hex_E           

keycode  79 = KP_1            

    altgr    keycode  79 = Hex_1           

    alt    keycode  79 = Ascii_1         

keycode  80 = KP_2            

    altgr    keycode  80 = Hex_2           

    alt    keycode  80 = Ascii_2         

keycode  81 = KP_3            

    altgr    keycode  81 = Hex_3           

    alt    keycode  81 = Ascii_3         

keycode  82 = KP_0            

    altgr    keycode  82 = Hex_0           

    alt    keycode  82 = Ascii_0         

keycode  83 = KP_Period       

    altgr    control    keycode  83 = Boot            

    control    alt    keycode  83 = Boot            

keycode  84 = Last_Console    

keycode  86 = backslash        bar              bar             

    control    keycode  86 = Control_backslash

    alt    keycode  86 = Meta_backslash  

    shift    alt    keycode  86 = Meta_bar        

    control    alt    keycode  86 = Meta_Control_backslash

keycode  87 = F11              F23              Console_23      

    control    keycode  87 = F35             

    alt    keycode  87 = Console_11      

    control    alt    keycode  87 = Console_11      

keycode  88 = F12              F24              Console_24      

    control    keycode  88 = F36             

    alt    keycode  88 = Console_12      

    control    alt    keycode  88 = Console_12      

keycode  96 = KP_Enter        

    altgr    keycode  96 = Hex_F           

keycode  97 = Control         

keycode  98 = KP_Divide       

    altgr    keycode  98 = Hex_B           

keycode  99 = Compose         

    control    keycode  99 = Control_backslash

    alt    keycode  99 = Control_backslash

    control    alt    keycode  99 = Meta_Control_backslash

keycode 100 = AltGr           

    alt    keycode 100 = Compose         

keycode 101 = Break           

keycode 102 = Find            

keycode 103 = Up              

    alt    keycode 103 = KeyboardSignal  

keycode 104 = Prior           

    shift    keycode 104 = Scroll_Backward 

keycode 105 = Left            

    alt    keycode 105 = Decr_Console    

keycode 106 = Right           

    alt    keycode 106 = Incr_Console    

keycode 107 = Select          

keycode 108 = Down            

keycode 109 = Next            

    shift    keycode 109 = Scroll_Forward  

keycode 110 = Insert          

keycode 111 = Remove          

    altgr    control    keycode 111 = Boot            

    control    alt    keycode 111 = Boot            

keycode 112 = Macro           

    altgr    control    keycode 112 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 112 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 113 = F13             

    altgr    control    keycode 113 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 113 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 114 = F14             

    altgr    control    keycode 114 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 114 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 115 = Help            

    altgr    control    keycode 115 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 115 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 116 = Do              

    altgr    control    keycode 116 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 116 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 117 = F17             

    altgr    control    keycode 117 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 117 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 118 = KP_MinPlus      

    altgr    control    keycode 118 = VoidSymbol      

    shift    alt    keycode 118 = VoidSymbol      

keycode 119 = Pause           

string F1 = "\033[[A"

string F2 = "\033[[B"

string F3 = "\033[[C"

string F4 = "\033[[D"

string F5 = "\033[[E"

string F6 = "\033[17~"

string F7 = "\033[18~"

string F8 = "\033[19~"

string F9 = "\033[20~"

string F10 = "\033[21~"

string F11 = "\033[23~"

string F12 = "\033[24~"

string F13 = "\033[25~"

string F14 = "\033[26~"

string F15 = "\033[28~"

string F16 = "\033[29~"

string F17 = "\033[31~"

string F18 = "\033[32~"

string F19 = "\033[33~"

string F20 = "\033[34~"

string Find = "\033[1~"

string Insert = "\033[2~"

string Remove = "\033[3~"

string Select = "\033[4~"

string Prior = "\033[5~"

string Next = "\033[6~"

string Macro = "\033[M"

string Pause = "\033[P"

compose '`' 'A' to Agrave

compose '`' 'a' to agrave

compose '\'' 'A' to Aacute

compose '\'' 'a' to aacute

compose '^' 'A' to Acircumflex

compose '^' 'a' to acircumflex

compose '~' 'A' to Atilde

compose '~' 'a' to atilde

compose '"' 'A' to Adiaeresis

compose '"' 'a' to adiaeresis

compose 'O' 'A' to Aring

compose 'o' 'a' to aring

compose '0' 'A' to Aring

compose '0' 'a' to aring

compose 'A' 'A' to Aring

compose 'a' 'a' to aring

compose 'A' 'E' to AE

compose 'a' 'e' to ae

compose ',' 'C' to Ccedilla

compose ',' 'c' to ccedilla

compose '`' 'E' to Egrave

compose '`' 'e' to egrave

compose '\'' 'E' to Eacute

compose '\'' 'e' to eacute

compose '^' 'E' to Ecircumflex

compose '^' 'e' to ecircumflex

compose '"' 'E' to Ediaeresis

compose '"' 'e' to ediaeresis

compose '`' 'I' to Igrave

compose '`' 'i' to igrave

compose '\'' 'I' to Iacute

compose '\'' 'i' to iacute

compose '^' 'I' to Icircumflex

compose '^' 'i' to icircumflex

compose '"' 'I' to Idiaeresis

compose '"' 'i' to idiaeresis

compose '-' 'D' to ETH

compose '-' 'd' to eth

compose '~' 'N' to Ntilde

compose '~' 'n' to ntilde

compose '`' 'O' to Ograve

compose '`' 'o' to ograve

compose '\'' 'O' to Oacute

compose '\'' 'o' to oacute

compose '^' 'O' to Ocircumflex

compose '^' 'o' to ocircumflex

compose '~' 'O' to Otilde

compose '~' 'o' to otilde

compose '"' 'O' to Odiaeresis

compose '"' 'o' to odiaeresis

compose '/' 'O' to Ooblique

compose '/' 'o' to oslash

compose '`' 'U' to Ugrave

compose '`' 'u' to ugrave

compose '\'' 'U' to Uacute

compose '\'' 'u' to uacute

compose '^' 'U' to Ucircumflex

compose '^' 'u' to ucircumflex

compose '"' 'U' to Udiaeresis

compose '"' 'u' to udiaeresis

compose '\'' 'Y' to Yacute

compose '\'' 'y' to yacute

compose 'T' 'H' to THORN

compose 't' 'h' to thorn

compose 's' 's' to ssharp

compose '"' 'y' to ydiaeresis

compose 's' 'z' to ssharp

compose 'i' 'j' to ydiaeresis

I think in the setup there was only one keyboard question, like country but not number of keys.

dsimic · (This post was last modified: 04-14-2021, 01:30 PM by dsimic.)

Quite frankly, something weird seems to be going on... Could the keyboard actually be faulty? Have you, maybe, spilled some liquid into the keyboard? Does xev print anything when you press the NumLock key? What happens when you press the NumLock key while you're on the virtual console (Ctrl+Alt+F1)?

Well, at least the built-in speakers now turn off automatically when you plug in the headphones.

ab1jx · 04-14-2021, 01:53 PM

Last time I tired to use a virtual console in Manajro the original never came back. It was busy doing some GUI thing that was slow so I switched. When I switched back it stayed black. Like I was lookiing at a framebuffer that needed to repaint.

I don't have xev installed. I don't normally use numlock so I don't know if it works. It came on when I didn't want it.

Posting then switching consoles in case it doesn't come back again.

dsimic · 04-14-2021, 01:57 PM

Let's see if the switching to the virtual console and back will work this time.

ab1jx

Last time I tried to use a virtual console in Manjaro the original never came back. It was busy doing some GUI thing that was slow so I switched. When I switched back it stayed black. Like I was lookiing at a framebuffer that needed to repaint.

I don't have xev installed. I don't normally use numlock so I don't know if it works. It came on when I didn't want it.

Posting then switching consoles in case it doesn't come back again.

It didn't come back and the network's dropping out like Network Manager is running. The GUI didn't come back so I switched back to the virtual terminal and typed pkill x. Then when I did ctl-alt-F1 it gave me a GUI login box and started a new session. So opendm is running or something. I normally boot to a console then type startx. Ican actually run X and Wayland in different consoles but it's crashy that way. X and a console mostly work fine.

Let's see if I can get to the network and get this out. Firefox kept it before even though X wasn't running.

I had to disconnect then reconnect the wifi. A few times. That's bogus. MPV is running at 25% CPU, disapointing. not using the GPU enough.

KC9UDX · 04-14-2021, 04:09 PM

You should have xev, it comes with X. Unless you're using Wayland (I don't know anything about it).

It reports keycode 77 (keysym0xff7f, Num_Lock) on mine.

Note that Manjaro is known to change your keyboard to the wrong layout by itself! You'll have to check the keyboard settings and make sure they are correct.

ab1jx

It reports 78, Scroll_Lock on mine, but I'm back in Debian. Several of the keys in that area seem to be off by 1. Num_Lock is actually on the Print Screen key. And both Print Screen and Pause will toggle Num_Lock and cause numbers to print instead of letters.

Code:
KeyPress event, serial 48, synthetic NO, window 0x2a00001,

    root 0x22b, subw 0x2a00002, time 10173268, (33,37), root:(355,236),

    state 0x0, keycode 78 (keysym 0xff14, Scroll_Lock), same_screen YES,

    XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 

    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 

    XFilterEvent returns: False

How do you change it in Manajro? I saw a couple places that I'm using a 105 key generic layout but that's as close as I got. I didn't count them but it's probably more than 101.

Just because xev comes with X it doesn't mean your distribution is going to include it. I use xwd so in Debian I have the x11-apps deb installed. I do some xlib programming sometimes, when covid was just starting to hit the US I wrote a simulator in xlib: https://sourceforge.net/projects/epidemicsim/

This will do a screen dump even over an ssh connection but it requires xwd. And it doesn't do well on frame buffers. I call it rdump.

Code:
#!/bin/bash

datestr=`date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M"`

outname=/tmp/ss_$datestr.xwd

echo "Saved as " $outname

echo "You have 5 seconds"

sleep 5

xwd -display ':0.0' -root -out $outname

ab1jx · 04-14-2021, 07:55 PM

I count 78 keys. Very small number but having to push Fn so much is annoying.

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