(06-25-2016, 11:48 AM)ssvb Wrote:(06-25-2016, 11:08 AM)diofantos Wrote: And back the to fasle advertising .. Right now, these claims are false, cause without proper Mali drivers, its just rubbish..
Let's see. You already get a somewhat low end, but usable Linux desktop system for running office applications and Internet browsing, because this does not need Mali. You also get hardware accelerated video playback in Linux, because it does not need Mali. You get a headless server use case covered too, because it does not need Mali drivers again. You can experiment with the GPIO expansion headers, because Mali drivers are completely unrelated.
But unlike what you have in Android, you don't get 3D accelerated games working at full speed in the Linux X11 desktop yet, because Mali drivers are still not ready (this is being addressed). Also you will not have a good experience with the Kodi application in Linux, because it relies on 3D drivers for rendering a fluffy user interface. You will not get extravagant eye candy effects (such as wobbly windows) in the compositing window manger either. But there are very few other use cases, which really need 3D acceleration in Linux. There are not too many games developed for GNU/Linux anyway.
If you are really into gaming, then it is probably best to use Android, and hope that the games don't rely on the touchscreen too much.
Quote:Im into all kinds of hobby projects, 3d printing, cnc milling, laser cutter is next , then i have few other Arduino projects that im working on and stuff like that, and I look at these boards (both sbcs and microcontrollers) as parts in bigger projects.. I what to spend my time working on the whole project, not fucking about getting the parts to work properly, i expect the to work when i buy them so i dont have to spend the extra time, and thats why I feel like this is false adverising, cause on their page they are basicly just talking shit cause it cant deliver
How many of these hobby projects actually need the Mali driver? It does not look like even a single one of them really depends on it, but feel free to correct me.
"Not to many games developed for linux"? have you ever actually install a linux distribution and looked under games? not to mention Valve's Steam linux games and from direct download and via wine and emulators. In reality at least 70% of all the PC games ever written will run under linux. Even under ARM distros there are still plenty of games and if this is a factor in his decision to purchase the pine then who are you to say he is wrong.
I see far too many posts here along the lines of "stop your bitching about X, I don't do X so it doesn't matter", if you ever want a community then try being just a little understanding of other people by putting yourself in their shoes. In case that is too difficult for you then think "I am angry about being deceived into parting with money via being decieved by advertised capabilities not being availible, compounded by an unsympathetic and possibly trolling "community" of I am alright Jacks". Would you really part with money when you see how little the vocal "community" cares about the product, their peers and the fulfilling reasonable expectations?
On the kickstarter website it says "The GPU on the PINE A64 is a dual-core MALI-400 MP2 and runs at 500MHz, capable of 1.1 Gpixel/s throughput. This means the graphics capabilities are slightly higher than the original X-Box's level of performance. " X-box level of performance would suggest a working 3D accelerator at least
It says on the pine website "GRAPHICS: Dual core Mali 400 MP2 Graphics acceleration provides mobile users with superior experience in web browsing, video playback, and gaming effects." one would reasonably assume that the gaming effects were actually available and more capable then not having a MP2 at all. Unless you interpret the "mobile users" as a hint that it doesn't apply to the pine as yet, I would suggest that most reasonable assessments would not agree with you.