(01-15-2016, 10:09 AM)taros Wrote:(01-15-2016, 08:02 AM)paulieg Wrote: I'm not sure what working 'against' linux-sunxi would even look like, never mind why it would be desirable. I'm just one hacker and don't speak for others or pine64, but I seriously doubt anyone would have an issue with anyone else working to improve linux support in whatever way they can along whichever vector suits them and their goals best.
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linux-sunxi is a diverse group of people. Those that are doing the actual work are not very vocal.
Those that are vocal, can be very rude.
I don't have experience with linux-sunxi in particular, but lkml is generally perceived as very rude by most people. I'm in Linus' camp on the issue and think it works well for a number of reasons and it doesn't bother me in the least. In any case, it's not going to change any time soon. I suspect linux-sunxi is just an extension of that particular culture.
Quote: I really cannot understand why they stay if the dislike Allwinner so much.
People who hack on open source licensed projects tend to dislike it when companies take their hard work, use it for commercial gain and don't cooperate with the community that did the work. I fully understand that sentiment. In fact, if people didn't scream, shout and complain about companies that do this, we'd be in a much worse position with vendor cooperation than we are now (generally speaking), so it's productive as well even though it may not appear to be in any given instance.
I can't speak for them of course, but I tend to get the angriest about companies and products that are OK-ish, but could be truly amazing if only they did the right thing. You first have to be passionate about the potential to get angry. If you're ambivalent, chances are you just won't be bothered enough to say anything.
Quote:The working Linux kernel is based on 3.10, not 3.0.x.
Must've been an update then since I looked at it or I was misremembering. Thanks for correcting me. In any case, that doesn't improve the situation wrt work needing to be done on the rootfs and package dependencies significantly. However, unlike other people, I'm not that hot under the collar about an older kernel.
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