09-21-2020, 01:58 PM
(09-21-2020, 11:18 AM)LinAdmin2 Wrote:It's one of those sentences that's very clear if you already know what it means, but can be misinterpreted if you don't, and should probably be made clearer. The hardware works (is operational) for those things, but the software to make it a reliable consumer-ready phone isn't there yet. Some areas are already pretty reliable and easy to use, at least in some distros, while others are barely past proof-of-concept code and need someone with both the interest and the skill to make them easy to use. It's very much the same experience as with the OpenMoko years back, and probably with the Purism hardware now too. The fundamental problem has been that without sufficiently open phone hardware the necessary software and APIs for a linux phone haven't developed, and now we're playing catch up.(09-20-2020, 11:30 PM)Veraendert Wrote: No promises made, stop claiming they did, please.
It says quite clearly in the description: "The preinstalled Manjaro OS software build which ships with this edition of the PinePhone is an Alpha software build. This effectively mean that while core functionality of the PinePhone – such as telephone calls, SMS messages, LTE, GPS, GPU acceleration, etc. – is operational, it is also an ongoing effort, and thus the device cannot be considered as a consumer-ready product."
That sums it up nicely. Mine works but it sure isn´t a finished product. Don´t buy if you don´t want to tinker.
Maybe you have learned the English language in a very different school?
Stop claiming that pine64.org did not make and does not make promises about the forthcoming Manjaro edition.
Quote:Shop page: "This effectively mean that while core functionality of the PinePhone – such as telephone calls, SMS messages, LTE, GPS, GPU acceleration, etc. – is operational, it is also an ongoing effort, and thus the device cannot be considered as a consumer-ready product"
The above nested sentence clearly states "... core functionality of the PinePhone – such as telephone calls, SMS messages, LTE, GPS, GPU acceleration, etc. – is operational ...".
This promise is not withdrawn by the gibberish following!!!