(07-08-2020, 02:07 AM)bpm255 Wrote: If I were any of you posters who had paid hard-earned money many months ago and were yet to receive a product, I would be just as frustrated as you are. And there's nothing quite so frustrating as communication blackouts from the people in charge, I totally understand.
But you guys need to STOP making toxic comments about Pine and the people who run it. There is literally a global pandemic currently on-going - 400,000 people have died and a $#!^ load more have lost their jobs - and both of those headcounts continue to grow. Global shipping logistics have been interrupted on a level almost unprecedented in modern times - seriously, it doesn't matter that you "bought a bunch of other stuff from China and it got here sooner than this."
Furthermore, at least half of the negativity here is about *speculative events* - if the email about shipping upgrades doesn't explicitly mention a refund upon cancellation, before you throw a temper tantrum on the internet you need to wait until you *actually cancel your order and then fail to receive a refund*. Your amateur prognostication is completely worthless except to warn everybody around that you might be a narcissist who insists on interpreting every unforeseen circumstance or challenge as somehow being a personal affront.
If the ~$200 USD you put down on this early-access cellphone is going to break your rent check then you should not have bought it. And if it's not going to break your rent check then you need to sit down and take a massive chill pill. You know what's not going to help the people in charge respond promptly to your emails? If all of you blast them with your whinging. You know who is going to come out hurting way worse than you in this transaction? Pine - I can almost guarantee that.
So quit acting like you've got a monopoly on bad luck and the whole world is out to screw you - go for a walk, find a new hobby that either doesn't involve experimental Linux phones, or that can be conducted with the experimental Linux phones that you already have. It's understandable to be frustrated, it's humanproject impl
I have to say that I agree with part of your message. Sending phones is being difficult due to the situation of the CoViD-19 and we must have patience and show support for Pine64 so that the Linux project continues to grow. That being said, I think we should also be open to criticism and learn from it.
Please do not conduct ethical evaluations, mixing complaints about how the shipping of the phones is carried out with the death of Covid.
Let's not cover anyone's mouth. Only transparency will make Pine64 not only a pioneer in Linux phones accessible to all, but a community that lives up to what this project implies.
Make the famous phrase yours: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"