02-27-2020, 07:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-29-2020, 01:40 AM by buffer.
Edit Reason: posted an update
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so with the latest phosh, my first impressions are: i didn't install a sim card for this yet. i turned it on, it screeched a high pitched tone for a few seconds. but phosh is running
i did factory test before and the only problem was lack of sim card and wifi connection. so i set up wifi and it seems to be connected but extremely slow, and every address i type (fsf.org, google.com, startpage.com, etc) gets routed through duckduckgo, which gives me an "oops! something went wrong while displaying this page. please reload or visit a different page to continue." you have to type HTTPS:// first, then it will load. So i think there's just a problem with duckduckgo and my being spoiled by HTTPS everywhere. so i'll just get firefox. EDIT: using Firefox showed me that it's the default browser that is reallyyyy buggy
screen resolution is incorrect, leaving some windows inaccessible, but i can close them easily from the menu. EDIT: actually this is a problem specific to the applications themselves like firefox, libreoffice, and coreapps. They aren't sized correctly and they aren't responsive to the touch interface (you can only highlight text), also the keyboard is incorrectly mapped and somewhat unresponsive when it talks to these apps.
hitting the settings app takes me directly to wifi settings and i'm not sure if that is intentional for convenience, but ok.
having additional language and keyboard options at some point besides english and qwerty would be good.
camera doesn't seem to work with the cheese app. ("no device found")
the sound works, kinda. speaker test produces no sound no matter what setting. but at the bottom of those settings you can test the sound by selecting an Alert Sound. i noticed that the speaker makes funny white noise for a few seconds after any time speakers are activated with an Alert Sound. probably need to be configured?
the battery level in settings says i'm at 35% right now, but the status bar displays the battery at above 50%.
the rest looks good. it's great that i can run the whole os off an sd card which means i can swap os's all i want i think. and i can remove the sd card to remove all the data. i love having a linux computer in the palm of my hand.
that's just oob. i'm gonna configure the device now.
Edit: This guy does a good review and has a better grasp of the current issues I mentioned.
Review of several OS's puts phosh and ubuntu at the top (Manjaro wasn't tried): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4GchfTPx0
Review of pmOS with phosh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32-QOrI4cw
UPDATE: amixer and alsamixer configuration helped me verify that the sound is correctly working, (and I unmuted everything even though it was already unmuted bc I'm paranoid) I turned the volume down to 90% and I think the screeching is gone. Doing a speaker test after lowering the volume resulted in an almost inaudible sound, but after a reboot the speaker test makes the normal loud white noise and volume remains at 90%. (I chose 90% because that's just below the red zone.) I still get weird extremely high pitched noises coming from the phone sometimes, but it's not as unpleasant at a lower volume.
I can at least SSH into things and that's gonna be necessary to configure the modem for phone calls etc, because you can't use nano on the phone due to lacking keyboard CTRL key, and you can't copy text off the browser. Terminal mode in keyboard really needs that CTRL key. I'm not able to kill a process without CTRL+C so I have to close the whole terminal.
I think phosh is the best user interface besides gnome. I'd like to try the debian+phosh combination, https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=9016 and I'm really interested in the Manjaro line and NixOS, as well as testing out Gnome 3 on pmOS. Calls and texts absolutely must work, which in pmOS+phosh they mostly do so I will configure that. Beyond that it seems there isn't much else I can do. Unless someone has some very good configuration options to recommend, and I will search to see if maybe there are some X server settings we can use... My feeling about pmOS is that it's a good sign that it is very stable already but having to repackage everything rather than taking advantage of the existing ones for like, debian-arm, is too much maintenance work. I would prefer to rely on mainstream distros like debian and arch. Yet I like that it works with APKs, and that could mean packages for F-Droid and Signal are on the horizon. Never mind, pmOS apks have nothing to do with and are not compatible with Android apks
i did factory test before and the only problem was lack of sim card and wifi connection. so i set up wifi and it seems to be connected but extremely slow, and every address i type (fsf.org, google.com, startpage.com, etc) gets routed through duckduckgo, which gives me an "oops! something went wrong while displaying this page. please reload or visit a different page to continue." you have to type HTTPS:// first, then it will load. So i think there's just a problem with duckduckgo and my being spoiled by HTTPS everywhere. so i'll just get firefox. EDIT: using Firefox showed me that it's the default browser that is reallyyyy buggy
screen resolution is incorrect, leaving some windows inaccessible, but i can close them easily from the menu. EDIT: actually this is a problem specific to the applications themselves like firefox, libreoffice, and coreapps. They aren't sized correctly and they aren't responsive to the touch interface (you can only highlight text), also the keyboard is incorrectly mapped and somewhat unresponsive when it talks to these apps.
hitting the settings app takes me directly to wifi settings and i'm not sure if that is intentional for convenience, but ok.
having additional language and keyboard options at some point besides english and qwerty would be good.
camera doesn't seem to work with the cheese app. ("no device found")
the sound works, kinda. speaker test produces no sound no matter what setting. but at the bottom of those settings you can test the sound by selecting an Alert Sound. i noticed that the speaker makes funny white noise for a few seconds after any time speakers are activated with an Alert Sound. probably need to be configured?
the battery level in settings says i'm at 35% right now, but the status bar displays the battery at above 50%.
the rest looks good. it's great that i can run the whole os off an sd card which means i can swap os's all i want i think. and i can remove the sd card to remove all the data. i love having a linux computer in the palm of my hand.
that's just oob. i'm gonna configure the device now.
Edit: This guy does a good review and has a better grasp of the current issues I mentioned.
Review of several OS's puts phosh and ubuntu at the top (Manjaro wasn't tried): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4GchfTPx0
Review of pmOS with phosh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32-QOrI4cw
UPDATE: amixer and alsamixer configuration helped me verify that the sound is correctly working, (and I unmuted everything even though it was already unmuted bc I'm paranoid) I turned the volume down to 90% and I think the screeching is gone. Doing a speaker test after lowering the volume resulted in an almost inaudible sound, but after a reboot the speaker test makes the normal loud white noise and volume remains at 90%. (I chose 90% because that's just below the red zone.) I still get weird extremely high pitched noises coming from the phone sometimes, but it's not as unpleasant at a lower volume.
I can at least SSH into things and that's gonna be necessary to configure the modem for phone calls etc, because you can't use nano on the phone due to lacking keyboard CTRL key, and you can't copy text off the browser. Terminal mode in keyboard really needs that CTRL key. I'm not able to kill a process without CTRL+C so I have to close the whole terminal.
I think phosh is the best user interface besides gnome. I'd like to try the debian+phosh combination, https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=9016 and I'm really interested in the Manjaro line and NixOS, as well as testing out Gnome 3 on pmOS. Calls and texts absolutely must work, which in pmOS+phosh they mostly do so I will configure that. Beyond that it seems there isn't much else I can do. Unless someone has some very good configuration options to recommend, and I will search to see if maybe there are some X server settings we can use... My feeling about pmOS is that it's a good sign that it is very stable already but having to repackage everything rather than taking advantage of the existing ones for like, debian-arm, is too much maintenance work. I would prefer to rely on mainstream distros like debian and arch. Yet I like that it works with APKs, and that could mean packages for F-Droid and Signal are on the horizon. Never mind, pmOS apks have nothing to do with and are not compatible with Android apks
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