02-16-2016, 10:36 AM
No offense taros but now you are just mudding up the waters.
True Android uses the 3.10 kernel with binary blobs/drivers specifically written for it, but a true Linux system it is not!
With that sort of implementation there are so many attack vectors in terms of security that will make it an issue for being used in a production environment. There are also performance/stability issues that going that route will bring about.
One should be able to provide a true compiled kernel for this specific set of hardware along with the appropriate drivers to truly boast the phrase "Linux Support".
This is marketing talk for those who don't know any better. The pine team will never get anything out of allwinner and they know it, but are just too afraid to tell the backers of what the reality of the Linux situation is.
3D acceleration will not work so a Desktop environment will be a pain. For those who wish to use this in a headless environment think of the implications of running a kernel that gets updated at the soc manufacturers leisure (allwinner) along with it's proprietary drivers. I am not saying that 3.10 is bad I am just wondering how many security patches have been released since the last time it was revised by the AllWinner team. So running this in a production environment that is exposed to the net would be risky to say the least.
I know you want to boast the Pine board is the latest greatest thing but don't misinform the public and those that know better ok? Some of us probably know more than you
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Thus from everything stated here in the forums compiling/booting linux has been a pain and the lack of driver support for onboard devices is a joke.
This is just another glorified android device plain and simple so please save yourself from becoming the next ShamWow guy, I am not interested in marketing mumbo-jumbo.
You get the sources for the peripherals and a linux kernel that doesn't need Android to run then you will have my attention!
True Android uses the 3.10 kernel with binary blobs/drivers specifically written for it, but a true Linux system it is not!
With that sort of implementation there are so many attack vectors in terms of security that will make it an issue for being used in a production environment. There are also performance/stability issues that going that route will bring about.
One should be able to provide a true compiled kernel for this specific set of hardware along with the appropriate drivers to truly boast the phrase "Linux Support".
This is marketing talk for those who don't know any better. The pine team will never get anything out of allwinner and they know it, but are just too afraid to tell the backers of what the reality of the Linux situation is.
3D acceleration will not work so a Desktop environment will be a pain. For those who wish to use this in a headless environment think of the implications of running a kernel that gets updated at the soc manufacturers leisure (allwinner) along with it's proprietary drivers. I am not saying that 3.10 is bad I am just wondering how many security patches have been released since the last time it was revised by the AllWinner team. So running this in a production environment that is exposed to the net would be risky to say the least.
I know you want to boast the Pine board is the latest greatest thing but don't misinform the public and those that know better ok? Some of us probably know more than you
.Thus from everything stated here in the forums compiling/booting linux has been a pain and the lack of driver support for onboard devices is a joke.
This is just another glorified android device plain and simple so please save yourself from becoming the next ShamWow guy, I am not interested in marketing mumbo-jumbo.
You get the sources for the peripherals and a linux kernel that doesn't need Android to run then you will have my attention!
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