09-23-2016, 12:28 AM
(09-22-2016, 11:55 PM)MarkHaysHarris777 Wrote: hi, I don't see any problem with the terminology in as far as 'longsleep - debian - xfce' refers to 'kernel - repositories - desktop'.
In other words unixoutlaw is refering to the kernel (longsleep's work) the distro repositories (debian) and the desktop of choice (xfce).
All images available here are based on BSP u-boot/kernel brought in shape by longsleep (relying on work done by linux-sunxi community, apritzel, ssvb, many others which relied on work done by a much more broader Linux community which...). All those images also rely on a kernel a certain Linus Thorvalds played a specific role. So why not speaking of 'Linus Debian XFCE' blabla instead? It's also no differentiation criteria.
The base of all images available here is the same (longsleep) but that does not apply to the specific OS image in question. And there only one OS image is longsleep's. That's his original Xenial image. Made with care.
Take the Ubuntu image from Pine64 wiki and you see the difference (added the 'same MAC address' bug for example). It's bloated but still misses useful/essential packages (nano for example). Take pine64pro's Debian image for example. Also added manually the stupid 'same MAC address on every device' bug, chose strange cpufreq settings and so on. But since both maintainers of pine64 wiki and pine64.pro don't care it's useless to complain anyway. Nothing will change here. This micro community here is condemned to live in this strange micro reality (not realizing that A64 is just another Allwinner SoC and that experiences being made years ago are valid for the 'new and shiny' Pine64 as well)
Last example: Using longsleep's Xenial image when using Pine64+ as NAS you get ~30MB/s by default, using pine64.pro's Debian XFCE image you end up with ~9MB/s. That's not Ubuntu vs. Debian, that's also the same kernel. The only difference is whether the distro baker took care or not. And longsleep took care and that's why his image is faster. So calling OS images from pine64.pro or from pine64 wiki 'longsleep images' is simply not fair.
And why (not only) I call OS images from Pine64 wiki crippled (and why I think less good OS images are better than many unmaintained OS images) can be read here: http://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?t...97#pid7797