05-26-2023, 09:11 AM
i represent me and me only, i do NOT speak behalf of the pine organization or its individual members.
my views are partial or preliminary, but i may or may not add more later.
i don't think pine organization or its members has suspicious things going on. meaning that members have not mislead buyers.
however, pinephone regular and pro has eg25g modem chip, which has its own firmware/software, which is not open source, it could be replaced by this https://github.com/the-modem-distro/pinephone_modem_sdk . even this pp sdk is not fully open source.
those claims by "grapheneos" is said by organization, which makes security hardened android for pixel phones and uses pixel's CLOSED SOURCED drivers and vendor image. and those drivers have license agreement, not open source license. even though gms (google mobile services) is removed, android even as its open source version is developed by google, also android api's and interfaces are developed and designed by google.
basically, "grapheneos" complains pinephone for its closed stuff, but then "grapheneos" is dependent on closed stuff from google.
at this point, if i still use android somewhere, graphenos is not going to be one, i may give more details later.
closed stuff here:
https://developers.google.com/android/drivers
my views are partial or preliminary, but i may or may not add more later.
i don't think pine organization or its members has suspicious things going on. meaning that members have not mislead buyers.
however, pinephone regular and pro has eg25g modem chip, which has its own firmware/software, which is not open source, it could be replaced by this https://github.com/the-modem-distro/pinephone_modem_sdk . even this pp sdk is not fully open source.
those claims by "grapheneos" is said by organization, which makes security hardened android for pixel phones and uses pixel's CLOSED SOURCED drivers and vendor image. and those drivers have license agreement, not open source license. even though gms (google mobile services) is removed, android even as its open source version is developed by google, also android api's and interfaces are developed and designed by google.
basically, "grapheneos" complains pinephone for its closed stuff, but then "grapheneos" is dependent on closed stuff from google.
at this point, if i still use android somewhere, graphenos is not going to be one, i may give more details later.
closed stuff here:
https://developers.google.com/android/drivers