08-18-2022, 05:13 PM
(08-18-2022, 04:57 PM)orbital Wrote: I'm talking about common sense improvements that rational consumers would expect when paying money for a product.
If the battery runs down to 0%, can the device be charged? Or does the battery have to be replaced?
If it can't be charged from 0%, more work is needed.
If the device is powered down, can the device be charged? Or does it have to be powered up?
If it can't be charged while powered down, more work is needed.
If either of these basic requirements aren't met, the product cannot be called "mature".
At best it is "cha bu duo", like milk with melamine added.
If you bought Pinephone you bought device what is advertised like this:
"Beta Edition PinePhones are aimed solely at early adopters. More specifically, only intend for these units to find their way into the hands of users with extensive Linux experience."
I have many Pinephones (I mean many and most of them are in daily use) and never had problem with battery that can't be charged.
I think problem is still that if battery goes absolutely 0% then you have to use external charger - how ever I think most of the main OS's handle this thing really well.
I don't know how Android or IOS does this but it might be even the same? Or have you ever gotten absolutely 0% battery with them - I have not?
I have also many many Android devices - with every device I own something starts when you plug charger. Some devices it is the main OS and some devices start the something like "Please charge before boot" mode.
There might be some phones that can be charged completely turned off but I don't think that is super priority thing.
So I think what you mentioned is actually working - at least as excellent that everyone who fits to this can live with PP:
"Beta Edition PinePhones are aimed solely at early adopters. More specifically, only intend for these units to find their way into the hands of users with extensive Linux experience."