02-21-2022, 02:47 AM
Hello!
first of all: You're not alone. These problems are, as others explained, to be expected in this stage.
When the PINE64 Store says
it means that there's a lot of work to be done yet for this device to be usable as a phone yet. Also, you need to take into account that PINE64's mission is to provide FOSS developers with affordable hardware so that the developer community can build amazing software for it. With SBC's this was more rarely misunderstood, with the products that can be confused with consumer products, misunderstandings happen more frequently. Now they could add text, but unless it's short, nobody is going to read it (think Terms of Service). Sometimes I think they should add something like: "If you want to buy this device to just replace your current smartphone, please don't buy it now and come back in a while and see if this message was removed."
Back to your problem:
Well, there is a development plan, that's why the current edition has the above cited caveat. As someone expecting to use this as your normal phone, you should not have bought one yet. But, as development is supposed to be done outside of the PINE64 organization in the PINE64 community and that community is assumed to be working best when it's open for everyone, you can just buy the PinePhone Pro without registering as a developer, and so were able to buy one.
To go a bit into the technical details (as far as I understand them):
The PinePhone Pro is using not only a different System on a Chip (the chip that bundles CPU, GPU and a lot more), but also one by a different manufacturer (Rockchip instead of AllWinner), so power management does not work the same way at all. Given that, it's actually quite amazing that some distributions can already wake up properly. Also, audio stuff works differently with this new SoC, so having working call audio already is also quite an achievement.
How long will it be until this all works properly and without bugs? Properly a long time, as suspend issues paired with USB resets and audio fun can be a can of worms, as the original PinePhone proves. This does not mean that we'll get to "mostly works" rather soon-ish (few months), but if you're unlucky, you'll hit by the rare bug often still in that stage.
For now, aside from trying what was already suggested, you could maybe get that unofficial battery case and turn off suspend altogether and thus have a much better chance to use the PinePhone Pro as a proper phone despite it not being ready yet for that use case.
Hope this helps!
first of all: You're not alone. These problems are, as others explained, to be expected in this stage.
When the PINE64 Store says
Quote:The PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition is aimed at Linux developers with an extensive knowledge of embedded systems and/or experience with mobile Linux
it means that there's a lot of work to be done yet for this device to be usable as a phone yet. Also, you need to take into account that PINE64's mission is to provide FOSS developers with affordable hardware so that the developer community can build amazing software for it. With SBC's this was more rarely misunderstood, with the products that can be confused with consumer products, misunderstandings happen more frequently. Now they could add text, but unless it's short, nobody is going to read it (think Terms of Service). Sometimes I think they should add something like: "If you want to buy this device to just replace your current smartphone, please don't buy it now and come back in a while and see if this message was removed."
Back to your problem:
Quote:If this was found in the PP, why wasn't the fix included in development plan for the new chip for the PPP. Is suspend a distro setting or a desktop setting, or a system software (kernel) setting? In development, you're supposed to incorporate found fixes in the next version and not release the new version until important fixes are made.
Well, there is a development plan, that's why the current edition has the above cited caveat. As someone expecting to use this as your normal phone, you should not have bought one yet. But, as development is supposed to be done outside of the PINE64 organization in the PINE64 community and that community is assumed to be working best when it's open for everyone, you can just buy the PinePhone Pro without registering as a developer, and so were able to buy one.
To go a bit into the technical details (as far as I understand them):
The PinePhone Pro is using not only a different System on a Chip (the chip that bundles CPU, GPU and a lot more), but also one by a different manufacturer (Rockchip instead of AllWinner), so power management does not work the same way at all. Given that, it's actually quite amazing that some distributions can already wake up properly. Also, audio stuff works differently with this new SoC, so having working call audio already is also quite an achievement.
How long will it be until this all works properly and without bugs? Properly a long time, as suspend issues paired with USB resets and audio fun can be a can of worms, as the original PinePhone proves. This does not mean that we'll get to "mostly works" rather soon-ish (few months), but if you're unlucky, you'll hit by the rare bug often still in that stage.
For now, aside from trying what was already suggested, you could maybe get that unofficial battery case and turn off suspend altogether and thus have a much better chance to use the PinePhone Pro as a proper phone despite it not being ready yet for that use case.
Hope this helps!
