Definitely kicking myself that I didn't make an account sooner -- I've been following the project but forums have always scared me off. This forum seems well-managed though, so a mistake on my part.
A somewhat important question, also related to storage: what's the max power draw on PCIe devices over m.2? Some of these NVMe disks have wild maximum power draws.
Awesome! I am very excited about this! Looking forward to the 25th (24th at midnight+1?)
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07-06-2019, 06:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019, 06:05 AM by Luke.)
(07-06-2019, 12:19 AM)lmcdo Wrote: Definitely kicking myself that I didn't make an account sooner -- I've been following the project but forums have always scared me off. This forum seems well-managed though, so a mistake on my part.
A somewhat important question, also related to storage: what's the max power draw on PCIe devices over m.2? Some of these NVMe disks have wild maximum power draws.
See, nothing to be scared of, especially since your first question is not only smart but also relevant because we didn't think to test this in particular...
The answer is - I don't know at this time. You may be right that using a NVMe may have a significant impact on battery life.
(07-06-2019, 06:04 AM)Luke Wrote: (07-06-2019, 12:19 AM)lmcdo Wrote: Definitely kicking myself that I didn't make an account sooner -- I've been following the project but forums have always scared me off. This forum seems well-managed though, so a mistake on my part.
A somewhat important question, also related to storage: what's the max power draw on PCIe devices over m.2? Some of these NVMe disks have wild maximum power draws.
See, nothing to be scared of, especially since your first question is not only smart but also relevant because we didn't think to test this in particular...
The answer is - I don't know at this time. You may be right that using a NVMe may have a significant impact on battery life.
NVMe SSDs can lower battery life more SATA SSDs/HDDs but we won't have SATA available as far as I know.
With that said, careful research on NVMe power consumption will yield good information on potential best selections. The ADATA drive in this article may be a good choice:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/the...d-review/9
07-06-2019, 11:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2019, 11:55 AM by neilman.)
Possibly a dumb question ... if so please forgive me :-)
Luke, either it has not been mentioned or I missed it or I'm missing the 'obvious', but is the new privacy switch mechanism a toggle-function or a one-off "OFF" function and is there any indication of its status (other than perhaps that the function not working any more)?
Great update and news! So looking forward to the countdown to order. I totally agree with others on a Pine symbol on the Super key, I think it will be discreet but classy. Roll-on the count down!
(07-06-2019, 11:54 AM)neilman Wrote: is the new privacy switch mechanism a toggle-function or a one-off "OFF" function
It's a toggle function... hold down the corresponding F-key (F1-F2-F3) for 10 seconds, and attached function gets turned off or on. It's remembered across reboots, so if you, for example, turned the camera off... it's off until you turn it back on again.
(07-06-2019, 11:54 AM)neilman Wrote: is there any indication of its status (other than perhaps that the fu
nction not working any more)? Not that I know of... defineley a Luke question as I don't have one 
@ pfeerick Its actually more of a @ Mrfixit2001 or @ ayufan question  @ neilman basically, if the F key function gets toggled, and say your camera (which uses the USB 2.0 protocol) gets toggled then the kernel doesn't see it, as if it was disconnected (plug pulled out).
Think that the camera + mics won't be an issue in the slightest (USB 2.0 so hot-pluggable), but you may wish to reboot after cutting power to the wifi/bt which uses SDIO - I can imagine that it 'vanishing' can cause errors, perhaps even a kernel panic.
(07-07-2019, 10:49 AM)Luke Wrote: but you may wish to reboot after cutting power to the wifi/bt which uses SDIO - I can imagine that it 'vanishing' can cause errors, perhaps even a kernel panic.
I have an old Lenovo with a hardware switch for radios. The kernel behaves when I toggle it, though it sometimes takes time for it to realize it's there when I toggle it ON. Mostly, we're looking at mainline kernel for all the distributions in the lineup, so it shouldn't be a problem (unless there are weird driver issues?)
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07-07-2019, 04:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-07-2019, 04:22 PM by z4v4l.)
Quote:but you may wish to reboot after cutting power to the wifi/bt which uses SDIO - I can imagine that it 'vanishing' can cause errors, perhaps even a kernel panic.
This. So "cool". And the question arises. I guess, I know the answer to it, but what if? There might be people, that don't want to cut off these modules this way, even a bit, at least to say. Yeah, weirdos not concerned with their "privacy". Instead, they aren't happy with that magical "firmware", running in the keyboard  and sticking its nose into power supply chain, eating some power and being a source of system crashes. Isn't there considered the possibility to make simpler variants, without this "feature"? Or, maybe, an easier solution, - isn't there a way to disable (cut off of power) the very keyboard hw where this firmware runs? disabling the feature, that enables disabling other things. 
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