PinePhone keyboard manual

[Luke]

We forgot to include the PinePhone keyboard manual in early shipments. We're very sorry about this.

You can find the digital version of the manual here

[NoahAndrews]

The link Luke posted is broken. Until he updates the post, here's a link to the manual (though it may be outdated): https://files.pine64.org/doc/PinePhone/U...-FR-ES.pdf

[NoahAndrews]

The manual (or at least the version of it that I linked to) says "Charge the PinePhone only via the keyboard’s USB-C port. When coupled with the keyboard, the PinePhone’s USB-C is to be used solely for data and peripherials."

@Luke How are we supposed to use the PinePhone to a computer for data transfer without allowing it to charge?

[Tanabi]

When coupled with the keyboard, the PinePhone’s USB-C is to be used solely for data and peripherials."

@Luke How are we supposed to use the PinePhone to a computer for data transfer without allowing it to charge?

.... And, uh, what if you already charged the PinePhone Pro directly with the keyboard case mounted because your case didn't come with instructions and you didn't think to check for a manual until after you've already done it?

... I only did this for about 5 minutes and nothing seems to be broken, but I'll make sure to do it 'right' from here on out.

[Tanabi]

As kind of a follow up, it seems like when I am plugged into the keyboard, with the phone in the keyboard case, the phone is losing charge.

I don't really know if the keyboard battery is doing anything at all I poked the button once to try and make sure its 'on' but of course there doesn't seem to be any indication of on-ness. Some hints on how this is supposed to work would be really helpful ... Or have I already broken the poor thing?

[talpa]

As kind of a follow up, it seems like when I am plugged into the keyboard, with the phone in the keyboard case, the phone is losing charge.

I don't really know if the keyboard battery is doing anything at all   I poked the button once to try and make sure its 'on' but of course there doesn't seem to be any indication of on-ness.  Some hints on how this is supposed to work would be really helpful ...  Or have I already broken the poor thing?

Single press to turn on, double press to turn off.
Charging activity should be visible where ever you usually sees it
(Some have reported issues with the pogo pins not contacting properly (I have not had any such issues))

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As kind of a follow up, it seems like when I am plugged into the keyboard, with the phone in the keyboard case, the phone is losing charge.

I don't really know if the keyboard battery is doing anything at all   I poked the button once to try and make sure its 'on' but of course there doesn't seem to be any indication of on-ness.  Some hints on how this is supposed to work would be really helpful ...  Or have I already broken the poor thing?

Single press to turn on, double press to turn off.
Charging activity should be visible where ever you usually sees it
(Some have reported issues with the pogo pins not contacting properly (I have not had any such issues))

Oddly enough the wiki states a long press to turn it off: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_(Pro)_Keyboard

[slomobile]

When using the convergence dock with Pinephone in the keyboard case, the dock should be plugged into the phone USB-C, but where should the external USB-C power supply be plugged into?  The keyboard USB-C port or the convergence dock USB-C power input?

Is either scenario safe prior to power management software being developed?  Is the PM software being developed assuming one configuration or another?  
With solely Pinephone branded accessories it is possible for the phone to have 4 power supplies at the same time.  2 battery, 2 external.  
Just looking for any unambiguous way to safely have 1 external supply powering the phone and dock, even if it demands removing a battery or 2.

Re: keyboard key shims.  I just noticed that the ID of the shims here https://avery.cafe/blog/a-quick-fix-for-...s-top-row/ are very close in diameter to the 1/4" hole size of Avery 5729 hole punch rings.  The OD is a bit large but can probably be trimmed square with a blade once it is on the keycap.  I haven't tried this yet.  They are also available in plastic, or 13mm OD which might have 6mm ID.
If someone has a guilotine paper cutter they could trim several sheets of the rings to key sized squares fairly quickly. Shipping a partial sheet of trimmed ring shims inserted in the manual with new keyboard orders might help a bit to mitigate complaints from current keyboard stock.

[ragreenburg]

As kind of a follow up, it seems like when I am plugged into the keyboard, with the phone in the keyboard case, the phone is losing charge.

I don't really know if the keyboard battery is doing anything at all   I poked the button once to try and make sure its 'on' but of course there doesn't seem to be any indication of on-ness.  Some hints on how this is supposed to work would be really helpful ...  Or have I already broken the poor thing?

If you look up a few threads it seems like the default power supply is a bit low but you can change that value. Look at the "Phone is charging slowly" section here for how to change the value. https://xnux.eu/pinephone-keyboard/faq.html