02-28-2016, 04:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2016, 05:24 AM by UnixOutlaw.)
(02-10-2016, 08:48 AM)joe Wrote: Hi ,
PINE64 total of have which linux ?
1. Ubuntu
2. Debian
3. Archlinux
4. Centos
5. Fedora
6. Other ......
Thank !
I'd love to add elementary OS to that list... it would make sense, as it's lot more lightweight on resources than Unity or Gnome3 (even tho elementary is a kinda/sorta fork of Gnome + Ubuntu [trusty])... I've got it running on my desktop and a Thinkpad X201 tablet/laptop - and just about to wipe my Ubuntu 15.10 laptop (gaming ASUS laptop) and replace with elementary OS Freya 0.3.2... It's heaps better on battery life on laptop than Ubuntu 15.10 with Unity... I can barely get two hours out of the battery on the Asus laptop with 15.10 Wily, but previously with elementary running on it - using the onboard Intel GPU, I once got 9 hours out of it!
So - my wishlist is elementary OS on the Pine 64!
Holy cr@p.... I just read this whole thread... starting to get alarmed at this issue (lack of Linux motivation by the manufacturer)... Surely they don't expect the "community" to bootstrap this f--king thing!
Last year in April, I backed the Kickstarter campaign of NextThing's "CHIP" first $9 computer... The promise was a board delivered with Linux running on it in December, so I ordered two and got them in December (these things are also Allwinner ARM [32 bit] single core [Hardware : Allwinner sun4i/sun5i Families]). There were bugs, e.g. the two I got wouldn't boot - but within weeks, NextThing had written a NAND repair tool for their hardware which WORKED (from Ubuntu!, a week later they had a native OS/X repair tool, and now a Windows one)! But they also shipped me another pair just in case!
It took them more than four months just to get beta boards out to early backers (i.e. they were on time - and didn't promise the sky too early) running their own home-brewed variant of Debian Jessie... I'm impressed. Allwinner A10 single core, 512 MB RAM and 4GB NAND - runs nicely with Jessie on kernel 4.3.0, and I can update and install software using my ISP's jessie mirror for ARM. Getting another CHIP in may with the PocketCHIP (looks like a big calculator, the CHIP plugs into it - works as a keyboard + touch display).
I also (while waiting for the December delivery) ordered a BananaPI which is ALSO an Allwinner (dual core) 32 bit (Hardware : sun7i)- and the manufacturer had various Linux images and Android images ready to run - desktop and headless images for Linux (arch, debian, ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu).
Are these guys (Pine people) being realistic? Will they be "usable" with Linux when delivered in March? I'm getting a single touch screen with one of them, and probably use it as an android, but long term want 64 bit RISC boxes running some form of *NIX. I've been using docker and skilling up on it - and read an article on Docker's website saying what a brilliant host the PineA64 would be for hosting 64 ARM docker containers - so I backed the campaign! Now I'm feeling a bit pessimistic!
Like a few people on here, I've worked with Linux and NIX environments for over 25 years. Love RISC architectures, got MIPS (SGI) and Sun sparc boxes dotted all over my house. My first exposure to UNIX was DG-UX running on a Motorola 88010 RISC AViiON machine (compiling POVRay from C source from Compuserve and running raytraces - exponentially faster than on x86 MSDOS pcs!), also AIX, IRIX, SCO/XENIX and OpenServer [yuck], Digital UNIX / OS/F / Tru64, HP-UX. Free/Net/OpenBSD etc. First tried Linux over 20 years ago - Slackware, compiling 1.2.13 kernels for specific SCSI cards and ISA NICs (no loadable modules) - don't wanna go there again! These days I just want stuff to work...
I'm no coder - just a fan of *NIXs and work as a system admin. No plans on getting low level (haven't done any low lever stuff for over 20 years, 8086 assembly)...
I think these PINE people maybe should take a look at what NextThing did in their Kickstarter campaign... PINE SERIOUSLY need to hire some full time low level kernel hackers to get this project off... otherwise it's doomed and I've wasted the price of a box/carton/slab/crate of beer! I really have no use for another Android device...