Possibly dysfunctional as a cell phone

[tckosvic]

Sorry, but I think items like a proper boot sequence, booting from the system memory, rather than, temporarily!!, booting from an SD, and handling of power requirements to be able to stay awake and keep functioning are fundamental and should be addressed before release in anything to be callled a cell phone.  items like playing audios, emails, MMS mails and such are acceptible development things.

tom kosvic

The boot sequence is fine .. it come from the CPU wich boot from internal first , but since the software is not totally advanced it's recommanded to boot on SD (cause if your boot partition is corrupted it's easier to fix the SD.

but seriously even if you install on internal emmc with the Explorer Edition you just have a press of a buttons under the phone to skip the internal and still boot on SD , and it's easily fixable too , So no issues there. just safety precaution for less experimented

The handling of the power is Again software side , Pine Develops hardware and the community develops software .. so you wanted the community to fix things before having the device in their hand ? a bit hard isn't ?

I think you should inform yourself about the PPP and how development is made before doing accusation like that, and talking it down

I have been spending time on looking at this thing.  I want to get it usable as I hate android/google.  I am not a systems programmer.
It is not "recommended" to boot from an sd, it is forced by the UBoot files.  You need special software to alter that sequence which is now becoming available, i.e., towboot.  That makes a wierd startup sequence a lot stronger than a recommendation.

Explain how power management is a user/deve/oper issue rather than a hardware/developer issue?  How can a user/developer modify power issues?  That is fundamental to distributing anything to be called a cell phone.  Wouldn't basic power issue be handled at the bios level?  Doesn't the bios come installed by the chip/mb manufacturer?

OK, let me ask in a more simplistic manner.  What software capabilities are installed on the phone before the OS/desktop?  Are you saying none? 

tom kosvic