PhinePhonePro Suitable "spare" and extended life Batteries

[crocspot]

Just wanted to confirm this aftermarket Samsung J7 Battery is a suitable "spare" battery for Pine Phone Pro (PPP) ?

https://www.ifixit.com/products/galaxy-j...nt-battery

Are there any known plans for Pine64 to ship "spare" batteries alone in the future or is it simply not worthwhile / economical ?

Seems unfortunate that we can get every other spare from the Pine64 store for PPP's except batteries ? (Appreciating the Lithium shipping difficulties)

I realize "normal" phones used for daily driving should be slim and light. I am happy to sacrifice for something bulkier that can still be fitted into a trouser or large shirt pocket that runs the POWA of Open Source Linux More along the lines of the "Old Skool" PDA's (Where the Pine Keyboard headed of course)

I've grabbed a Pine Phone Keyboard with a view to using that so I can daily drive the PPP. Various Reviews describe "mixed" results especially noting the Phone USB C Port being unusable due to the Loop back Charging fault. Is there any news on a future hardware revision / keyboard update to resolve this fault ?

Purely as feedback in real life usage I've really only bought the keyboard for the 6000 mAh battery. No disrespect to all that brought this wonderful keyboard and battery to life. I do find it as a keyboard to be very clunky in daily usage. Noting there are so many suitable, accessible and in-expensive self powered Bluetooth options out there that I find much more usable and closer to a full "featured" touch typing keyboard. (Well as best as can be in a folding style !)

e.g. something like

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07...UTF8&psc=1

Is it not worth developing a factory Pine64 extended life battery back and molded cover similar to a few of the projects posted on these forums ?

(Otherwise time to assemble my 3D Printer currently in it's box !)

Noting the on average 4 hours Battery time I'm getting out of the Factory on board 3000 mAh PPP Battery using default Mobian. Just wondering what any PhinePhonePro daily drivers / "warriors" are using for real world extended battery life currently ?

I see reference in the custom batteries post for PhinePhonePro to the Samsung S20 Ultra Battery as well. Wondering If anyone has supplier links that might be suitable for Australia at all ? Most comments are for US, European or Asia sources which can be a problem when shipping Lithium products to Australia.

I'm searching for and testing some suitable extended battery life (Accessible) battery options suitable for the PPP in Australia and will post results as I have them.

Any assistance gratefully appreciated in advance

[Kevin Kofler]

Just wanted to confirm this aftermarket Samsung J7 Battery is a suitable "spare" battery for Pine Phone Pro (PPP) ?

https://www.ifixit.com/products/galaxy-j...nt-battery

According to the images, this is an EB-BJ700BBC, so according to https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone#Battery and https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_F...uld_I_buy?, it should fit. Assuming the battery you get is actually the one pictured, or at least a compatible one. Note that the PinePhone Pro uses the same battery form factor as the original PinePhone.

I have personally tested an EB-BJ700CBE in an original PinePhone. That one fits in an original PinePhone if it is recent enough (any Community or Beta Edition, not the Braveheart one), and should fit in the PinePhone Pro too. Interestingly, that was listed by the retailer as an EB-BJ700BBC, but it was actually an EB-BJ700CBE. Did not matter for me though, so I did not complain.

Are there any known plans for Pine64 to ship "spare" batteries alone in the future or is it simply not worthwhile / economical ?

Well, I do not know, but I know that they used to ship spare batteries in the Pine Store. They have stopped for some reason.

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I see reference in the custom batteries post for PhinePhonePro to the Samsung S20 Ultra Battery as well.

Note that you will need a 3D-printed adapter for that external battery case to fit properly to your PinePhone Pro. And it will make it somewhat bulkier, though maybe not as much as the keyboard.

[crocspot]

Just wanted to confirm this aftermarket Samsung J7 Battery is a suitable "spare" battery for Pine Phone Pro (PPP) ?

https://www.ifixit.com/products/galaxy-j...nt-battery

According to the images, this is an EB-BJ700BBC, so according to https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone#Battery and https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_F...uld_I_buy?, it should fit. Assuming the battery you get is actually the one pictured, or at least a compatible one. Note that the PinePhone Pro uses the same battery form factor as the original PinePhone.

I have personally tested an EB-BJ700CBE in an original PinePhone. That one fits in an original PinePhone if it is recent enough (any Community or Beta Edition, not the Braveheart one), and should fit in the PinePhone Pro too. Interestingly, that was listed by the retailer as an EB-BJ700BBC, but it was actually an EB-BJ700CBE. Did not matter for me though, so I did not complain.

Are there any known plans for Pine64 to ship "spare" batteries alone in the future or is it simply not worthwhile / economical ?

Well, I do not know, but I know that they used to ship spare batteries in the Pine Store. They have stopped for some reason.

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I see reference in the custom batteries post for PhinePhonePro to the Samsung S20 Ultra Battery as well.

Note that you will need a 3D-printed adapter for that external battery case to fit properly to your PinePhone Pro. And it will make it somewhat bulkier, though maybe not as much as the keyboard.

Thanks Kevin

[dchang0]

I ordered a Samsung EB-BJ700BBU for my PinePhone Pro, and I can confirm that it is a perfect fit after I peeled the entire black plastic piece off the bottom edge of the battery (opposite end from the electrical contacts). I didn't file the feet off, as that is not enough (you can tell by measuring the pack that it won't fit).

The black plastic strip is simply glued on and peels off pretty easily (do not puncture the battery pack with sharp tools!)

Once the black plastic strip is removed, the battery drops into the battery compartment in the back of the PPP effortlessly--it is not necessary to use force in any way.
I'm pretty happy with this, though I think Pine64 should change their official notice to say that the batteries for the Samsung J7 2015 phone are not actually usable without modification.

[Kevin Kofler]

I did not have to peel off anything to fit the EB-BJ700CBE into the original PinePhone.