Shipment to Russia is either too expensive (UPS, DHL) or non-legal

[ilyaigpetrov]

Greetings, Pine Team and the community.

I intended to buy a PinePhone Pro (PPP) and to deliver it to Russia (other city than Moscow). In the chat I was recommended to check Tiptrans [1] as a package forwarder. I got my PPP delivered to TipTrans' Hong Kong office but then they rejected delivery via Quatium transport because of restrictions on batteries. The only other transport they suggested is UPS which asks 260$ USD just for the phone without accessories which is comparable to the current PPP's price of 400$.

[1]: https://tiptrans.com

On this forum I read that DHL doesn't ship to a personal address in Russia but may ship to a Russian company (company-to-company). You could find some Russian partner (e.g. https://getchips.ru) and deliver PPP via DHL, but DHL is not cheap either. I don't have any estimations but I think the price is as high as UPS.

Here, in this forum, I ask you not to ignore Russian market. Please, come up with some ways of cheaper delivery of PPP from Hong Kong to Russia.

Thank you,
Ilya.

[zetabeta]

Greetings, Pine Team and the community.

I intended to buy a PinePhone Pro (PPP) and to deliver it to Russia (other city than Moscow). In the chat I was recommended to check Tiptrans [1] as a package forwarder. I got my PPP delivered to TipTrans' Hong Kong office but then they rejected delivery via Quatium transport because of restrictions on batteries. The only other transport they suggested is UPS which asks 260$ USD just for the phone without accessories which is comparable to the current PPP's price of 400$.

[1]: https://tiptrans.com

On this forum I read that DHL doesn't ship to a personal address in Russia but may ship to a Russian company (company-to-company). You could find some Russian partner (e.g. https://getchips.ru) and deliver PPP via DHL, but DHL is not cheap either. I don't have any estimations but I think the price is as high as UPS.

Here, in this forum, I ask you not to ignore Russian market. Please, come up with some ways of cheaper delivery of PPP from Hong Kong to Russia.

Thank you,
Ilya.

disclaimer, i do not live in russia but i live in a neighboring country very near.

if i know correctly, problem isn't directly shipping, it is customs. russian government has some restrictions on transporting some stuff related to encryption. pinephones qualify. how to get pinephones approved by russian government might be a giant task. knowing how corrupted the system is, you probably have to use less legal methods to get that pinephone.

[ilyaigpetrov]

> [...]how to get pinephones approved by russian government might be a giant task.

You have to get 2 documents:
1) Declaration of conformity (25k rub).
2) Notifications.

The PP (not PPP) received notification, it may be found here (rus): https://portal.eaeunion.org/sites/odata/...0f96889dbc.

If PP was made legal to transport then I doubt legalizing PPP would be more difficult.

I guess, the problem is somewhere else, e.g. if you use a cheap transporter then it's prohibited to transport batteries and devices with built-in batteries at some points of the route from HK to Russia.
This problem could be solved if PineStore start selling devices without batteries, but yet I don't know if it's possible for PineStore.