rant - userland is 32-bit
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(08-22-2017, 09:33 AM)xalius Wrote: Most of RK's userland stuff has been 32-bit for now (mpp, media libraries etc...) but they have 64bit versions in their upstream repo now, as lukasz said, the community builds come in armhf and aarch64 versions, I only used 64bit rootfs so far for my stuff...

The production boards have an added power switch for USB2 with current limiter and apparently the GPIO0_A2 that controls it is floating, so that needs a software fix to set the GPIO on boot, but my production boards did not arrive yet so I can't test my solution...

I enabled a lot of wifi drivers in 4.4.70 a while back, but a lot of them are actually out of tree (some popular Realtek) and need the modules to be built separately...

I think there is a lot going on at the moment but unlike other SoCs Rockchip & Pine are opensource and Pine is community orientated and there doesn't seem to be the usual process of denial to ensure dust collection.
Xalius is waiting for a production board, I am a noob and I am waiting for a production board but the way I see things is because we have a RK33xx series SoC we are part of a huge ongoing effort.

On the forum people keep asking about UEFI and maybe but likely to be U-Boot but both likely to be part of BL3 in the arm-trusted-firmware which is receiving commits thick and fast.
This process should all become a snip when the Yocto support is complete and even a lesser mortal like myself might be able create custom Linux-based systems without having to think about hardware.
There is a whole rake of stuff going on and being honest I do agree as at this point in time with this hardware a 32bit userland is a complete chocolate kettle. Its a pointless cul-de-sac and I have to ask what the purpose of that Linaro image is for apart from to confuse the hell out of the community.
It would also seem the community images are confusing in that we have 32 & 64bit userland and I have to agree that there is little point in this board mixing a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userland.

Really there seems to be 1 guy doing a huge amount of work in the right direction and maybe this mixture is part of the development process but generally its dead on the button with very fast responses.
I am actually really confused at the 'official' pine image as it seems like a lot of bloat but maybe its a reference image for hardware and board purposes for something immediate.

So there is a shit load going on at the moment and the biggest problem for me is presentation as actually it is confusing as hell, without the board I have been blind and I am just starting to get to grips with things now.
Its also not going to get better is people don't post which specific hardware has no support.
Its also not going to get better if the community don't ask that user to create an issue on github for that specific hardware so there is a list of open issues without driver support.

IMO a 32bit userland on a RK33xx series chip is a brain fart but the biggest problem is the presentation as its seems to be a silent but deadly type.
Its why I got a Rock64 its sort of in the name.
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rant - userland is 32-bit - by bitbank - 08-22-2017, 08:04 AM
RE: rant - userland is 32-bit - by Luke - 08-22-2017, 09:02 AM
RE: rant - userland is 32-bit - by xalius - 08-22-2017, 09:33 AM
RE: rant - userland is 32-bit - by stuartiannaylor - 08-22-2017, 05:53 PM

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