03-07-2021, 11:30 PM
> I think the parents would feel more assured using and supporting open hardware on cpus that weren't susceptible to these manufacture oversights, or whatever they were that caused the vulnerabilities; it's not like cpu manufacturers earned the public's trust by disclosing the exploits: they had to be warned by independent researchers, making the public wonder if they knew they were there the entire time.
These are some ultra security concerned parents! I suggest that the security mitigations for AMD64 are pretty good, given the amount of eyes over them and automated testing for checking for their existence. There are still attacks like rowhammer that essentially don't really have any mitigation techniques.
> That's why I think it should raise its prices. Low Supply High Demand = supplier raises price.
Raise the prices and lose the hacker community. The low-price is exactly what puts these devices into the hands of hackers.
> But the market will follow availability. Some company will poor money into open hardware phone and get it into high production; their new phone will get the market share, because it could keep up with the exponential demand; and then pinephones can join the museum alongside the freerunners. I hope that doesn't happen.
I think generally the devices are available to those who wish to develop them. Bare in mind most of these devices are still far from a finished product. The PinePhone for example is still really lacking any daily-usable OS (although it gets close). These devices are simply not yet ready for mainstream adoption and might not ever be.
These are some ultra security concerned parents! I suggest that the security mitigations for AMD64 are pretty good, given the amount of eyes over them and automated testing for checking for their existence. There are still attacks like rowhammer that essentially don't really have any mitigation techniques.
> That's why I think it should raise its prices. Low Supply High Demand = supplier raises price.
Raise the prices and lose the hacker community. The low-price is exactly what puts these devices into the hands of hackers.
> But the market will follow availability. Some company will poor money into open hardware phone and get it into high production; their new phone will get the market share, because it could keep up with the exponential demand; and then pinephones can join the museum alongside the freerunners. I hope that doesn't happen.
I think generally the devices are available to those who wish to develop them. Bare in mind most of these devices are still far from a finished product. The PinePhone for example is still really lacking any daily-usable OS (although it gets close). These devices are simply not yet ready for mainstream adoption and might not ever be.